Flying Lessons

("Steve" wrote)
[snips]
I'm going to add something that noone else has offered up yet....

Damn... i don't post often, but when i do... i get a bit long winded...

I for one thought it was a very informative post I plan on being
around a bit. So feel free to correct my thinking at will.


I'm seeing a green light from the tower. g

"My Keyboard!"
"My Keyboard!"

First lesson: Let's work on trimming those posts :-)

Thanks.

Also, not wanting to lose you here at r.a.p, but have you popped in over at
rec.aviation.student yet?

Also also, hold out for the new HondaJet. It was way cool at OSH this year.

[Flying lessons - buying your own jet]
* BUY a Cessna 172/Piper Warrior
* Keep it in your own hanger, or rent space.
* Do this before Oct 1st.
There are people here, and at rec.aviation.owning, who will help you out
with much (free) advise on buying a plane.

* Go through about 4 instructors (in *your* plane) men and women - you'll
eventually find a couple CFI's you like -- knock it out in 40-60 hrs.

* Fly and hour per day 4-5-6 days per week.
* Take some glider training for fun.

* Take some fellow 172 pilots up for rides - they don't need to be a CFI.
They will be PIC (Pilot in Command) so make it clear before you go up what's
what ...CRM (Crew Recourse Management) ...just like the airlines crews.

*Get your PPL and your Instrument by Christmas.
Now you'll have a much better idea what you want to do next ...plus you'll
be a pilot!!

Almost forgot - get your medical out of the way first. If you've got "known"
issues here, you will still be able to fly under the new Sport Pilot Rule -
just not jets.


Montblack

Montblack wrote:

Also also, hold out for the new HondaJet. It was way cool at OSH this year.

Honda hasn't even decided to put it into production yet. If they do, I agree --
it's way cool. But maybe Steve wants to pick up something else in the meantime.

Almost forgot - get your medical out of the way first. If you've got
"known" issues here, you will still be able to fly under the new Sport
Pilot Rule - just not jets.

I agree that the medical should be taken ASAP, but Steve will not be able to fly
Sport Pilot if his application for a medical is rejected.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"George Patterson" wrote

I agree that the medical should be taken ASAP, but Steve will not be able
to fly
Sport Pilot if his application for a medical is rejected.

Right.

I say that step one should be to join AOPA, and in the process learn about
what kind of issues would be a stopper as far as getting a medical is
concerned. Plus, he will need a 1st class medical, to go all of the way to
jets, right?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:

I say that step one should be to join AOPA, and in the process learn about
what kind of issues would be a stopper as far as getting a medical is
concerned. Plus, he will need a 1st class medical, to go all of the way to
jets, right?

When I applied to AOPA, they had a policy that you had to have soloed before
joining. They allowed certain exceptions to that rule at the time, and they may
not have the rule anymore, but, on the other hand, it's possible that Steve
cannot join yet.

I just reviewed part 61, and I think all he'd need is a 3rd class. The classes
are basically based on the type of flying you do, not the aircraft you fly. Yes,
if Steve wanted a job as an ATP, he'd need a 1st class; otherwise, no.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"George Patterson" wrote

When I applied to AOPA, they had a policy that you had to have soloed
before
joining. They allowed certain exceptions to that rule at the time, and
they may
not have the rule anymore, but, on the other hand, it's possible that
Steve
cannot join yet.

No problem with AOPA, now. Anyone can join. (EVEN ME) g
--
Jim in NC

Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do. I was considering that
but I didn't know if it was an organization worth it's salt. Although
I did like the fact they offered a discount ticket for your
introduction flight.



On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:48:28 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"George Patterson" wrote

When I applied to AOPA, they had a policy that you had to have soloed
before
joining. They allowed certain exceptions to that rule at the time, and
they may
not have the rule anymore, but, on the other hand, it's possible that
Steve
cannot join yet.

No problem with AOPA, now. Anyone can join. (EVEN ME) g

Steve wrote:

Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do.

Definitely.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do. I was considering that
but I didn't know if it was an organization worth it's salt. Although
I did like the fact they offered a discount ticket for your
introduction flight.

Some people will disagree, but IMHO AOPA is worth the dues. The magazine
alone is worth the dues, and membership gets you a lot more. As a member, I
have asked for and received good advice on a variety of topics, from medical
issues, to international flights, to aircraft purchasing, and more.

They are also the primary lobbying organization for general aviation. It
could be argued that they aren't very effective in all areas, but they do
accomplish some things, and frankly it's not like there's any other group
out there doing more than AOPA. I certainly feel like I get at least $40
worth of lobbying each year.

As far as the discount for the first lesson goes though, that should be
available whether or not you join. Most flight schools have a discounted
introductory flight, and you can go to www.beapilot.com to find discounted
intro flights near you. So, while I'd agree that AOPA is worth joining for
any pilot, or for pilots-to-be, the discounted first flight isn't something
that makes them unique, nor is it really much of a membership benefit.

Pete

Ok so you guys consider joining AOPA a must do.

Yes.

They're far from perfect, but they're the best we've got.

And the magazine is outstanding.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:09:07 -0500, "Montblack"
wrote:

("Steve" wrote)
[snips]
I'm going to add something that noone else has offered up yet....

Damn... i don't post often, but when i do... i get a bit long winded...

I for one thought it was a very informative post I plan on being
around a bit. So feel free to correct my thinking at will.


I'm seeing a green light from the tower. g

"My Keyboard!"
"My Keyboard!"

First lesson: Let's work on trimming those posts :-)

Thanks.

Also, not wanting to lose you here at r.a.p, but have you popped in over at
rec.aviation.student yet?

Yes, but I wanted to pick the experienced mind first.


Also also, hold out for the new HondaJet. It was way cool at OSH this year.

[Flying lessons - buying your own jet]
* BUY a Cessna 172/Piper Warrior
* Keep it in your own hanger, or rent space.
* Do this before Oct 1st.

Why do I need to do this before Oct 1

There are people here, and at rec.aviation.owning, who will help you out
with much (free) advise on buying a plane.

* Go through about 4 instructors (in *your* plane) men and women - you'll
eventually find a couple CFI's you like -- knock it out in 40-60 hrs.

* Fly and hour per day 4-5-6 days per week.
* Take some glider training for fun.

For some reason flying without an engine on purpose disturbs me.

* Take some fellow 172 pilots up for rides - they don't need to be a CFI.
They will be PIC (Pilot in Command) so make it clear before you go up what's
what ...CRM (Crew Recourse Management) ...just like the airlines crews.

*Get your PPL and your Instrument by Christmas.
Now you'll have a much better idea what you want to do next ...plus you'll
be a pilot!!

Almost forgot - get your medical out of the way first. If you've got "known"
issues here, you will still be able to fly under the new Sport Pilot Rule -
just not jets.


Montblack