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Old September 22nd 05, 08:53 PM
jbaloun
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Let the nose down too soon and skid the nose gear farther and faster.
Hold it up too long, stall the elevator and drop the nose slower but
harder.
Use thrust reversers or not? Keep hands on the stick and feet on the
brakes?
How does all of this happen in the highly automated Airbus cockpit?

It seems that the pilot would want to treat the nose gear like he was
walking on eggs. Take it as easy as possible. Adding operations like
cycling the thrust reversers may add too many unknowns to the situation
and may add load to the nose gear. Maybe they keep it as simple as
possible, even if that means running over. He had to be ready to react
as quickly as possible using any means available if halfway down the
runway the nose gear might dig in and jerk the nose to the side. He
would fight what ever happened until as metioned above, the pilot
finally became a passsenger...

It was amazing to watch as the tires ground away, burned, burst open,
peeled off, and then the lower half of the wheel and part of the axle
were ground down.

James

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Old September 22nd 05, 09:38 PM
sfb
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This isn't the first time the A320 had this problem so the simulators
might have flown this configuration about a gazillion times so procedure
should be well understood.

"jbaloun" wrote in message
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Let the nose down too soon and skid the nose gear farther and faster.
Hold it up too long, stall the elevator and drop the nose slower but
harder.
Use thrust reversers or not? Keep hands on the stick and feet on the
brakes?
How does all of this happen in the highly automated Airbus cockpit?

It seems that the pilot would want to treat the nose gear like he was
walking on eggs. Take it as easy as possible. Adding operations like
cycling the thrust reversers may add too many unknowns to the
situation
and may add load to the nose gear. Maybe they keep it as simple as
possible, even if that means running over. He had to be ready to react
as quickly as possible using any means available if halfway down the
runway the nose gear might dig in and jerk the nose to the side. He
would fight what ever happened until as metioned above, the pilot
finally became a passsenger...

It was amazing to watch as the tires ground away, burned, burst open,
peeled off, and then the lower half of the wheel and part of the axle
were ground down.

James



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Old September 23rd 05, 05:01 AM
Capt.Doug
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"sfb" wrote in message
This isn't the first time the A320 had this problem so the simulators
might have flown this configuration about a gazillion times so procedure
should be well understood.


Airbus' simulators don't have this malfunction programmed.

D.


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Old September 25th 05, 05:19 PM
B. Jensen
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Hmmm, the Airbus Simulator that I fly does.

BJ

Capt.Doug wrote:

"sfb" wrote in message
This isn't the first time the A320 had this problem so the simulators
might have flown this configuration about a gazillion times so procedure
should be well understood.



Airbus' simulators don't have this malfunction programmed.

D.



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Old September 23rd 05, 04:51 AM
Happy Dog
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"jbaloun" wrote in message
Let the nose down too soon and skid the nose gear farther and faster.
Hold it up too long, stall the elevator and drop the nose slower but
harder.
Use thrust reversers or not? Keep hands on the stick and feet on the
brakes?
How does all of this happen in the highly automated Airbus cockpit?

It seems that the pilot would want to treat the nose gear like he was
walking on eggs. Take it as easy as possible. Adding operations like
cycling the thrust reversers may add too many unknowns to the situation
and may add load to the nose gear. Maybe they keep it as simple as
possible, even if that means running over.


Hadn't thought of that. With the exception of going off the end. What's at
the end of that runway? Is there a soft field landing technique for
airliners?

moo


 




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