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Old September 24th 05, 03:44 AM
Jon A
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:11:53 -0700, "Aluckyguess"
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I imagine a person with this talent could demand quite a good salary. This
person would not need a union he could make more money on his own.


Unless because this person had to feed the family and a businessman
was able to get him at half the price because although he was a master
of his trade, he wasn't learned in the art of business. If the
tradesman tries to get ahead, they have to strike. They end the
strike when the businessman gives his word to make thing right. If
the businessman needs to get ahead he can slowly screw everyone else
to death.

Now years ago the unionized folks made an agreement with management
that they're reneging on with the infamous bankruptcy. Who cares
about the reason they're skipping. The ****in' pension was part of
the employment package, read: the salary. The company owes it to the
people and bankruptcy shouldn't wipe the obligation away. If the
current and past crop of MBAs were looking at jail time for this
crime, I'll just bet that it wouldn't have happened.


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Old September 25th 05, 12:06 AM
Aluckyguess
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"Jon A" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:11:53 -0700, "Aluckyguess"
wrote:

I imagine a person with this talent could demand quite a good salary. This
person would not need a union he could make more money on his own.


Unless because this person had to feed the family and a businessman
was able to get him at half the price because although he was a master
of his trade, he wasn't learned in the art of business. If the
tradesman tries to get ahead, they have to strike. They end the
strike when the businessman gives his word to make thing right. If
the businessman needs to get ahead he can slowly screw everyone else
to death.

Now years ago the unionized folks made an agreement with management
that they're reneging on with the infamous bankruptcy. Who cares
about the reason they're skipping. The ****in' pension was part of
the employment package, read: the salary. The company owes it to the
people and bankruptcy shouldn't wipe the obligation away. If the
current and past crop of MBAs were looking at jail time for this
crime, I'll just bet that it wouldn't have happened.


How can a business man screw is worker. All the worker has to do is quit and
get another job. Pretty simple.


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Old September 25th 05, 02:54 AM
Rich Lemert
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Aluckyguess wrote:

How can a business man screw is worker. All the worker has to do is quit and
get another job. Pretty simple.



And pretty naive! Company towns (they still exist). Blacklists. A poor
economy with high unemployment.

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Old September 25th 05, 04:13 AM
sfb
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Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to sue
his ass.

"Rich Lemert" wrote in message
nk.net...
Aluckyguess wrote:

How can a business man screw is worker. All the worker has to do is
quit and get another job. Pretty simple.


And pretty naive! Company towns (they still exist). Blacklists. A
poor
economy with high unemployment.



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Old September 25th 05, 05:13 AM
George Patterson
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sfb wrote:

Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to sue
his ass.


And how do you discover and prove that you're on a blacklist? Serious question,
here.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Old September 30th 05, 04:27 AM
George Patterson
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George Patterson wrote:
sfb wrote:

Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to
sue his ass.


And how do you discover and prove that you're on a blacklist? Serious
question, here.


Well, since nobody seems to have an answer to this one, it appears that
blacklists are probably very much alive and well. At least, nobody on this group
seems to be aware of any means of detecting one. And if nobody can prove that
they're on a blacklist, I guess the lawyers are SOL.

George Patterson
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It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
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Old September 25th 05, 05:14 PM
bowman
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sfb wrote:

Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to sue
his ass.


Employers publish their blacklists in the legal notices section of the local
newspaper?

"Joe? Great worker, punctual, learned new skills well, and was really
conscientious. Poor guy had a lot of bad luck though, and had a couple of
work related injuries."

Translation: "the second time the dumb son of a bitch tried to run a
Workmen's Comp scam on us, we put him on light duty cleaning the crappers
with a toothbrush until he quit."



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