Flight Level and a half

In a previous article, "Matt Barrow" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Plus 33,500 is a perfectly valid altitude on an IFR flight plan if you're
climbing, descending, VFR-OTP, given a block altitude or on a cruise
clearance.

VFR On Top at 33,500?

You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that. I assumed that
since it was still an IFR clearance, it was still valid. Not that flight
level rules are likely to apply to me any time soon.


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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.

If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.

"Newps" wrote in message
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If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.


Or at the upper or lower limit of the block or anywhere between them.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.

If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.

Not in Class A, you can't.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Not in Class A, you can't.

Why can't you get a block altitude and fly in the middle of it in Class A
airspace?

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.

If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.


Not in Class A, you can't.

You most certainly can.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.

If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.


Not in Class A, you can't.

You most certainly can.

Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.

Could you 'splain that one?

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Matt

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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.

Could you 'splain that one?


Block altitude. "Maintain block FL 330 through FL 350". You can operate at
any altitude within that block and have vertical separation from traffic at
FL 320 and FL 360.

Matt Barrow wrote:


Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet

The separation is a minimum of 1000 feet, no reason I can't just give
you more airspace.

and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.

You won't be given an OTP clearance but then at 330 you wouldn't need
that since you're hard pressed to find many clouds up there that aren't
already thunderstorms.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:


Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet

The separation is a minimum of 1000 feet, no reason I can't just give you
more airspace.

So where in the FAR' is there authorization for VFR ops above FL180?


and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.

You won't be given an OTP clearance but then at 330 you wouldn't need that
since you're hard pressed to find many clouds up there that aren't already
thunderstorms.

So you're saying one could operate VFR at FL330?


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Matt

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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO