cirrus aircraft

"Dan Luke" wrote

That's a good time to use that autopilot thing.

To tell the truth, I forgot that there was an auto pilot thing, in this one.
;^)

What if auto pilot thing was not working?

(sorry for being argumentative, but I am curious by nature)
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote:

That's a good time to use that autopilot thing.

To tell the truth, I forgot that there was an auto pilot thing, in
this one.
;^)

What if auto pilot thing was not working?

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

Not that my opinion matters, since I don't plan on buying a Cirrus, but I
think they missed the mark, when they went with the side stick. I know all
of the advantages, but they just don't outweigh the disadvantage of lack of
flexibility, IMHO.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote:

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

Not that my opinion matters, since I don't plan on buying a Cirrus,
but I
think they missed the mark, when they went with the side stick. I
know all
of the advantages, but they just don't outweigh the disadvantage of
lack of
flexibility, IMHO.

Agree. I find side sticks gimicky and awkward. Much rather have a
center stick or yoke, although I will grant that a side stick may have
crash safety advantages.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:
"Morgans" wrote:

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

Not that my opinion matters, since I don't plan on buying a Cirrus,
but I
think they missed the mark, when they went with the side stick. I

Agree. I find side sticks gimicky and awkward. Much rather have a
center stick or yoke, although I will grant that a side stick may have
crash safety advantages.

I find the fact that you need the autopilot to fly the plane* to be a
lot more disturbing. I'm not sure how I feel about the plane being
designed to be flown the same way as a bizjet.

* Numerous Cirrus owners have commented that trimming the plane to
hands-off is difficult and that they rely on the A/P for enroute
flying. Then again, who would drive a car today without power steering?
Perhaps this is the SATS-type future of GA.

-cwk.

In article .com,
wrote:
* Numerous Cirrus owners have commented that trimming the plane to
hands-off is difficult and that they rely on the A/P for enroute
flying. Then again, who would drive a car today without power steering?
Perhaps this is the SATS-type future of GA.


Power steering doesn't drive the car for you. An autopilot flies the
plane for you.

With all due respect to those who have purchased SR20/SR22 aircraft, I
wouldn't buy one if someone handed me the money. In my opinion, the
money is better spent on more proven designs.



JKG

Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
* Numerous Cirrus owners have commented that trimming the plane to
hands-off is difficult and that they rely on the A/P for enroute
flying. Then again, who would drive a car today without power steering?
Perhaps this is the SATS-type future of GA.


Power steering doesn't drive the car for you. An autopilot flies the
plane for you.

No, but if your power steering fails, you probably call the towtruck.
And if you don't, your wife definitely does. That's my point- the
autopilot basically becomes an MEL item in these planes.

With all due respect to those who have purchased SR20/SR22 aircraft, I
wouldn't buy one if someone handed me the money. In my opinion, the
money is better spent on more proven designs.

I'm a little less chary of it, though I prefer the Lancair (from a
distance) because of their attention to the cabin crash dynamics. IIRC
they poached some of the guys who worked on the Diamond planes which
have an absolutely amazing safety record, especially the Katana. This
plus airbags has for me a lot more safety value than CAPS, which
protects you in comparatively few circumstances. However, it seems to
me that in terms of fundamental philosophy, both the Columbia and SR
series planes seem to be designed to be flown like corporate jets-
takeoff, turn on George, disconnect, flare and land. Considering the
comparative safety record thi might be the wiser approach.

-cwk.

Morgans,

I know all
of the advantages, but they just don't outweigh the disadvantage of lack of
flexibility, IMHO.


I'll give up the flexibility for crash-worthiness.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote

I'll give up the flexibility for crash-worthiness.

I hope you are smart enough, to not buy into that bit.

There are other ways to deal with a stick or column, and being crash-worth.
Telescoping under pressure, break-away, and airbags are all strategies that
work well.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans,

There are other ways to deal with a stick or column, and being crash-worth.
Telescoping under pressure, break-away, and airbags are all strategies that
work well.


And can be found in which aircraft?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)