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Old September 26th 05, 07:41 PM
Chuck Griswold
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4. Anybody know anyone who has had to land with both
brakes shut - in
a glider with more performance than a tin brick? I'd
be interested to
hear their stories.

Ray


I don’t post messages on RAS normally but this is an
exception.
Yes, I have landed a Discus with no spoilers, and yes
it was my stupidity.
I taped the spoilers shut to keep the rain out and
didn’t do a proper ground
check the next day. The first clue was on down wind
at about 500 ft. The
part that requires the most practice is when to turn
base and just how low
you must be in order to put it on the ground and get
it stopped. If you have
never done it you should practice it. The alternative
is to never make a
mistake and make sure the glider is always going to
give you what you
want.
I fly at a glider field where the instructors insist
that you not only know
how but also practice “no spoiler landings” to a full
stop, and they can spot
land with no spoilers. In fact we did one yesterday
in a Grob 103.
Caracole has done an excellent job of teaching me soaring.
It’s hard to
teach an old dog new tricks but I learn something new
every time I go out
to fly.
Chuck



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Old September 26th 05, 09:03 PM
Shawn
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Chuck Griswold wrote:
4. Anybody know anyone who has had to land with both
brakes shut - in
a glider with more performance than a tin brick? I'd
be interested to
hear their stories.

Ray



I don’t post messages on RAS normally but this is an
exception.
Yes, I have landed a Discus with no spoilers, and yes
it was my stupidity.
I taped the spoilers shut to keep the rain out and
didn’t do a proper ground
check the next day. The first clue was on down wind
at about 500 ft. The
part that requires the most practice is when to turn
base and just how low
you must be in order to put it on the ground and get
it stopped. If you have
never done it you should practice it. The alternative
is to never make a
mistake and make sure the glider is always going to
give you what you
want.
I fly at a glider field where the instructors insist
that you not only know
how but also practice “no spoiler landings” to a full
stop, and they can spot
land with no spoilers. In fact we did one yesterday
in a Grob 103.
Caracole has done an excellent job of teaching me soaring.
It’s hard to
teach an old dog new tricks but I learn something new
every time I go out
to fly.
Chuck


Put some tape on your stick the next time.
"What's this? Oh yeah."
Just a thought.

Shawn
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Old September 27th 05, 06:38 AM
Eric Greenwell
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Shawn wrote:



I don’t post messages on RAS normally but this is an
exception. Yes, I have landed a Discus with no spoilers, and yes
it was my stupidity. I taped the spoilers shut to keep the rain out and
didn’t do a proper ground check the next day.

Put some tape on your stick the next time.
"What's this? Oh yeah."
Just a thought.


And the tape should have written on it "DO A DI".

A normal DI would discover the spoilers won't open, so obviously a
control check was never done at any time. Removing the tape on the
spoilers is a good idea, but doing a DI is even better (the tape might
not be the only problem).


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Eric Greenwell
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USA
 




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