Ethanol Mandate for Iowa?

"Dan Engleman" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Today Rep. Jim Nussle -- potentially the future governor of Iowa -- was
reported as proposing that all gasoline sold in Iowa be required to
contain 20% ethanol additive. ...snip...


As Ross Richardson (a fellow Sherman Texonite) mentioned, they have, in
Brazil, adapted most everything to run on ethanol (they call it alcohol).



Here is an interesting slide-show of Brazil's numbers, presented at a
conference in 2004. (in pdf format)


http://www.renewables2004.de/ppt/Presentation4-SessionIVB(11-12.30h)-LaRovere.pdf

Bottom line:

At that time, oil over 30 dollars made the ethanol program profitable for
them.
And in spite of the historic "low" oil prices, estimated savings of
1.8Billion USD over the 22 year period of the program.

Think of it now, in terms of today's price of oil. And their infrastructure
is up and running.... We are apt to be replacing foreign oil with foreign
ethanol. is to laugh.

"Icebound" wrote in message ...
snip
Bottom line:

At that time, oil over 30 dollars made the ethanol program profitable for them.
And in spite of the historic "low" oil prices, estimated savings of 1.8Billion USD over the 22 year period of the
program.

Think of it now, in terms of today's price of oil. And their infrastructure is up and running.... We are apt to be
replacing foreign oil with foreign ethanol. is to laugh.

I read a recent article about this (I believe it was in a trade journal). It may be that the key is in using sugar
cane instead of corn. The article stated that Brazil can produce a barrel of ethanol for $25.



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JJS wrote:

I read a recent article about this (I believe it was in a trade journal). It may be that the key is in using sugar
cane instead of corn.

The key may also be lower labor costs, reduced fertilization, and minimal
mechanization on the farms.

George Patterson
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"JJS" jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net writes:

I read a recent article about this (I believe it was in a trade journal). It may be that the key is in using sugar
cane instead of corn.

Yeah, it always catches my attention how corn stacks up so poorly against
other crops when we talk about energy production.

On a good note, I might be able to legally grow something better here
someday!
http://www.votehemp.com/PR/6-27-05_federal_bill.html
Ah...to be free of Monsanto and...hmmm...that's not gonna happen, is it?

--kyler

Sugar ethanol is another political boondoggle. The sugar growers are
planning ahead to when they will be jumping from the sugar price
protection wagon to the ethanol subsidy wagon. One of these days the US
Government will stop protecting US sugar growers and the price of sugar
will drop dramatically.

"JJS" jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net wrote in message

I read a recent article about this (I believe it was in a trade
journal). It may be that the key is in using sugar cane instead of
corn. The article stated that Brazil can produce a barrel of ethanol
for $25.