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Old September 25th 05, 04:13 AM
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Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to sue
his ass.

"Rich Lemert" wrote in message
nk.net...
Aluckyguess wrote:

How can a business man screw is worker. All the worker has to do is
quit and get another job. Pretty simple.


And pretty naive! Company towns (they still exist). Blacklists. A
poor
economy with high unemployment.



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Old September 25th 05, 05:13 AM
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sfb wrote:

Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to sue
his ass.


And how do you discover and prove that you're on a blacklist? Serious question,
here.

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Old September 25th 05, 05:14 PM
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sfb wrote:

Anybody stupid enough to blacklist would be out of business in an hour
and a half as the contingency fee lawyers would be taking numbers to sue
his ass.


Employers publish their blacklists in the legal notices section of the local
newspaper?

"Joe? Great worker, punctual, learned new skills well, and was really
conscientious. Poor guy had a lot of bad luck though, and had a couple of
work related injuries."

Translation: "the second time the dumb son of a bitch tried to run a
Workmen's Comp scam on us, we put him on light duty cleaning the crappers
with a toothbrush until he quit."



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Old September 26th 05, 12:56 PM
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My response was based on what looked like John T's belief that there was
no obligation to provide benefits promised.


No, that wasn't my point at all. My question remains: Why does an employer
have an *obligation* to provide benefits?

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Old September 26th 05, 01:09 PM
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In article ,
"John T" wrote:

No, that wasn't my point at all. My question remains: Why does an employer
have an *obligation* to provide benefits?


do you mean benefits other than those required by state and/or federal law?

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Old September 26th 05, 03:01 PM
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"John T" wrote:

No, that wasn't my point at all. My question remains: Why does an
employer
have an *obligation* to provide benefits?


do you mean benefits other than those required by state and/or federal
law?



In addition to Bob's question can I add... do you mean other than those that
the employer promised to provide at the time of hire?


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Old September 27th 05, 09:48 PM
John T
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Bob Noel wrote:

do you mean benefits other than those required by state and/or
federal law?


My question stands. State law varies, obviously, but what benefits does the
federal government require of employers?

As for promises: If it's not in writing, it's worth about as much as the
lint in my pocket. I agree it reflects very badly on the company and should
be advertised so other potential employees know what kind of company it is.

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Old September 28th 05, 12:32 AM
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John T wrote:

As for promises: If it's not in writing, it's worth about as much as the
lint in my pocket.


Most of the benefits discussed in this thread are put in writing repeatedly by
an employer. I used to get statements detailing my pension at least once a year.

The problem is that *those* promises are worth little more than the paper
they're written on. When a corporation gets to the point where the chief
executives feels that their only choice is violation of the law or going out of
business, they will usually violate the law. If they can manage to avoid that by
bankruptcy, they will usually declare bankruptcy. Either way, their promises are
history.

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Old September 28th 05, 03:31 AM
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In article ,
"John T" wrote:

do you mean benefits other than those required by state and/or
federal law?


My question stands. State law varies, obviously, but what benefits does the
federal government require of employers?


Would you consider the Family Medical Leave Act (or some such name) a
benefit?

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Old September 28th 05, 07:28 PM
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Bob Noel wrote:

My question stands. State law varies, obviously, but what benefits
does the federal government require of employers?


Would you consider the Family Medical Leave Act (or some such name) a
benefit?


For limited numbers of employees. Even then it only guarantees unpaid leave
and has nothing to do with retirement plans (the genesis of this thread).

Got any other benefits the Feds require of employers?

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