Cirrus Killer? Cessna just doesn't get it...

Ken Reed wrote in news:mfo%e.5268$zQ3.1253
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Many pilots wives are much less nervous about flying with a BRS
installed.

That was a very significant factor for me buying a Cirrus.

KR

Thanks for the admission, I know 3 other pilot personally who feel the
same... (and wrote the check to prove it) "WE" know that the "REAL"
need for the BRS is a very small percentage of accidents, but our non-
pilot friends/loved ones have a whole different perception....

"but honey, what if something goes wrong??? Well sweety, we just pull
this here handle and all is well"

"WE" all know we go through the checklist, Look for a good place to do a
deadstick landing etc... and the "REAL" need for the BRS is a VERY VERY
small percentage, but THEY know if all else fails, there is an
alternative... (and quite frankly, if WE are honest with ourselves,
doesn't is make us feel a "little" bit better???) If the plane is
designed for it, that 30ish pounds will not make a dif in usefull load
eh?

I dunno, I guess I don't need a " "rs until I NEED a " "rs.....

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

"ET" wrote in message
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Ken Reed wrote in news:mfo%e.5268$zQ3.1253
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Many pilots wives are much less nervous about flying with a BRS
installed.

That was a very significant factor for me buying a Cirrus.

KR

Thanks for the admission, I know 3 other pilot personally who feel the
same... (and wrote the check to prove it) "WE" know that the "REAL"
need for the BRS is a very small percentage of accidents, but our non-
pilot friends/loved ones have a whole different perception....

"but honey, what if something goes wrong??? Well sweety, we just pull
this here handle and all is well"

"WE" all know we go through the checklist, Look for a good place to do a
deadstick landing etc... and the "REAL" need for the BRS is a VERY VERY
small percentage, but THEY know if all else fails, there is an
alternative... (and quite frankly, if WE are honest with ourselves,
doesn't is make us feel a "little" bit better???) If the plane is
designed for it, that 30ish pounds will not make a dif in usefull load
eh?

I dunno, I guess I don't need a " "rs until I NEED a " "rs.....

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

Unfortunately the Cirrus BRS has a less than stellar performance record.
Although I think it did work for the guy with a sore leg.

Dave,

Unfortunately the Cirrus BRS has a less than stellar performance record.


Care to back that statement up with numbers? IMHO, you're wrong.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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ET wrote:

Ken Reed wrote in news:mfo%e.5268$zQ3.1253
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Many pilots wives are much less nervous about flying with a BRS
installed.

That was a very significant factor for me buying a Cirrus.

KR

Thanks for the admission, I know 3 other pilot personally who feel the
same... (and wrote the check to prove it) "WE" know that the "REAL"
need for the BRS is a very small percentage of accidents, but our non-
pilot friends/loved ones have a whole different perception....

Only two situations I can think of where having a BRS would save my
butt...
1.) mid-air collision
2.) loss of prop and/or engine (due to vibration from broken prop).
Yes, I have seen the Sean Tucker video.

john smith wrote:

Only two situations I can think of where having a BRS would save my
butt...
1.) mid-air collision
2.) loss of prop and/or engine (due to vibration from broken prop).
Yes, I have seen the Sean Tucker video.

What Tucker video? Is available online?

Matt

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Matt Whiting wrote:

john smith wrote:

Only two situations I can think of where having a BRS would save my
butt...
1.) mid-air collision
2.) loss of prop and/or engine (due to vibration from broken prop).
Yes, I have seen the Sean Tucker video.

What Tucker video? Is available online?

Sean Tucker took his niece out for a ride in a Pitts.
After some easy maneuvers to get her accustomed to acro, he pulled up
into a hammerhead. While going vertical, the prop went one way and the
Pitts another. Immediately recognizing the situation, he go the nose
down and continued to fly the airplane. While calmly and repeatedly
assuring his niece that "everything is alright", he found a suitable
landing site and set up his approach. He executed a flawless landing and
they walked away. The whole thing was recorded on a cockpit audio/video
device. From the loss of the prop to rolling to a stop was less than two
minutes. It is one of the most incredible videos I have seen
demonstrating cockpit cool under pressure. Airspeed to maintain control
was around 140 kts, including the approach and touchdown.
I do not know if it is on his website. He shows it during his Oshkosh
presentations.