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![]() "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... Aluckyguess, I find it hard to believe it wont fly level without the autopilot. And it will. Not hands off, according to some Cirrus drivers. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote: "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... Aluckyguess, I find it hard to believe it wont fly level without the autopilot. And it will. Not hands off, according to some Cirrus drivers. It will fly level hands-off in roll (which is the axis that really matters if you have to choose) but not in pitch at high speed -- at least I have the very devil of a time trimming out the pitch. But YMMV. rg |
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:54:31 -0700, "Aluckyguess"
wrote: I think the Cirrus is the best plane in its class at this time. If I had the need for that type a plane it would be tops on the list. I find it hard to believe it wont fly level without the autopilot. If I had the money and were in the market I'd take the Columbia 400 first, 350 second and Bonanza third. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Even the SR22 isn't any faster than other light
aircraft that possess more stable flying characteristics. more stable? How and where did you get the idea that the SR22is not? Back two or three days ago, in this thread. The observation came from one or two Cirrus drivers. Wasn't me. Mine's quite stable. KR |
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Ken Reed wrote: Even the SR22 isn't any faster than other light aircraft that possess more stable flying characteristics. more stable? How and where did you get the idea that the SR22is not? Back two or three days ago, in this thread. The observation came from one or two Cirrus drivers. Wasn't me. Mine's quite stable. I think it was me, and I never said it wasn't stable, just that it's hard to adjust the pitch trim for level flight at high speed because it's electric. That's very different from "unstable". rg |
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On 2005-10-01, Ron Garret wrote:
I think it was me, and I never said it wasn't stable, just that it's hard to adjust the pitch trim for level flight at high speed because it's electric. That's very different from "unstable". Seems to be true with all electric trimmers. I usually find myself giving up and using the manual trim wheel (if available). It's not particlarly bothersome in most electric-trim-only planes though. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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On 2005-09-29, Jonathan Goodish wrote:
Composites may indeed be superior in some ways, but long-term cost of ownership for composites used in certificated GA aircraft is a huge unknown at this point. Not really - just look at certificated composite gliders. There's plenty of old plastic gliders around now. Plenty of people who know how to do repairs on them, too. Not to mention in the powered world, the Diamond light planes have been around for quite a while now. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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On 2005-09-30, Ron Garret wrote:
Not hands off, according to some Cirrus drivers. It will fly level hands-off in roll (which is the axis that really matters if you have to choose) but not in pitch at high speed -- at least I have the very devil of a time trimming out the pitch. But YMMV. Then again, a Piper Arrow generally won't do so either (all the Arrows I find have had a fairly pronounced and slow phugoid oscillation. In fact, I find the Beech Bonanza a lot less work to fly IFR than an Arrow because the Bonana flies better hands-off). -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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Dylan Smith wrote: On 2005-10-01, Ron Garret wrote: I think it was me, and I never said it wasn't stable, just that it's hard to adjust the pitch trim for level flight at high speed because it's electric. That's very different from "unstable". Seems to be true with all electric trimmers. Yes, this problem is not unique to the Cirrus. I usually find myself giving up and using the manual trim wheel (if available). It's not particlarly bothersome in most electric-trim-only planes though. It's not particularly bothersome in the Cirrus either because the autopilot is standard equipment :-) rg |
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Then again, a Piper Arrow generally won't do so either (all the Arrows I
find have had a fairly pronounced and slow phugoid oscillation. In fact, I find the Beech Bonanza a lot less work to fly IFR than an Arrow because the Bonana flies better hands-off). Then again, the Bonanza has a side-side tail wiggle that other airplanes do not. And nothing short of a yaw damper will stop it. |
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