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Old October 1st 05, 06:11 PM
john smith
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Then again, a Piper Arrow generally won't do so either (all the Arrows I
find have had a fairly pronounced and slow phugoid oscillation. In fact,
I find the Beech Bonanza a lot less work to fly IFR than an Arrow
because the Bonana flies better hands-off).


Then again, the Bonanza has a side-side tail wiggle that other airplanes
do not. And nothing short of a yaw damper will stop it.
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Old October 1st 05, 08:30 PM
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 17:11:20 GMT, john smith wrote:

Then again, a Piper Arrow generally won't do so either (all the Arrows I
find have had a fairly pronounced and slow phugoid oscillation. In fact,
I find the Beech Bonanza a lot less work to fly IFR than an Arrow
because the Bonana flies better hands-off).


Then again, the Bonanza has a side-side tail wiggle that other airplanes
do not. And nothing short of a yaw damper will stop it.


Yah, but if the pilot doesn't sit in the back seat he'll never no it's
there. I've never noticed it on calm days either.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
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Old October 3rd 05, 09:24 AM
Dylan Smith
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On 2005-10-01, john smith wrote:
Then again, a Piper Arrow generally won't do so either (all the Arrows I
find have had a fairly pronounced and slow phugoid oscillation. In fact,
I find the Beech Bonanza a lot less work to fly IFR than an Arrow
because the Bonana flies better hands-off).


Then again, the Bonanza has a side-side tail wiggle that other airplanes
do not. And nothing short of a yaw damper will stop it.


I've not found the Bonanza waggle to be something that makes it not fly
hands-off: it's short period, doesn't result in a net course change and
not particularly severe (well, unless you're in the back seat).

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Old October 5th 05, 11:34 PM
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:24:41 -0000, Dylan Smith
wrote:

On 2005-10-01, john smith wrote:
Then again, a Piper Arrow generally won't do so either (all the Arrows I
find have had a fairly pronounced and slow phugoid oscillation. In fact,
I find the Beech Bonanza a lot less work to fly IFR than an Arrow
because the Bonana flies better hands-off).


Then again, the Bonanza has a side-side tail wiggle that other airplanes
do not. And nothing short of a yaw damper will stop it.


I've not found the Bonanza waggle to be something that makes it not fly
hands-off: it's short period, doesn't result in a net course change and
not particularly severe (well, unless you're in the back seat).


It does tend to raise the "barf factor" a tad, but it does that in the
straight tails too.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
 




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