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Cirrus Killer? Cessna just doesn't get it...



 
 
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  #91  
Old October 2nd 05, 05:05 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Sylvain" wrote in message
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in fact, depending on how much revenue, one such business can
practically get a brand spanking new SUV every year (if I remember
correctly can deduct something like 100k a year -- providing the
thing is over 6000 lbs); in other words, they have the choice
between a brand new car for free


It's a deduction, not a tax credit. A person would have to be pretty dumb
to think they are getting a brand new car for free.

Pete


  #92  
Old October 2nd 05, 05:37 AM
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Amazing. That's exactly the airplane I'd pictured when I first read
about Cessna's new plane. A composite Cardinal.


My guess is that it will still be aluminum, but with better aerodynamic
lines. I can't see Cessna going away from what it knows, and what it is set
up for.

I think there would have been some talk among the community, of composite
guys, or equipment, or companies being pulled in.
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Jim in NC

  #93  
Old October 2nd 05, 06:00 AM
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How about a fixed-gear Extra 500? Fast, sexy, practical.
http://www.mach-flyg.com/notiser/bilder/extra500_1.jpg

Seth


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
I was day-dreaming out loud at a recent MAPA meeting about getting a
C-206
as my "family wagon" (two adults, two kids, some friends {8^). A 210 was
sitting next to me, and seemed quite adamant that the 210 was a better
choice than the 206. But there were enough others around that I was
never
able to get details.

So...why the 210 instead of the 206?



Faster, sexier...



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  #94  
Old October 2nd 05, 06:13 AM
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You'd better look up "coefficient of friction" in a physics text.

I've driven plenty of rented SUVs in snow, in mountain rangers across the
continent and around the world -- and none of them handles, goes or stops as
well as my 98 Subaru with IRS and Michelin snow tires.

And my 40-year-old airplane does 80% of what a Cirrus will do but cost me
15% of the Cirrus purchase price. It gets better gas mileage than a Ford
Explorer, at three times the speed.

When will I buy a new airplane? When it's priced like my old airplane.

Seth
Comanche N8100R

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote

Only twice as heavy and more susceptable to side winds.


twice as heavy (which they really are not) means more weight on the
wheels,
which give a higher coefficient of friction, plus the fact that they have
bigger tires. It also helps if you don't drive faster than your ability
to
stop for the conditions.

If you don't like SUV's, OK, but this is a stupid argument to base the
cons
on.
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Jim in NC



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Old October 2nd 05, 06:37 AM
Seth Masia
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PZL P.11 and P.24
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevo...other/pzl.html

Northrop P-61 (okay, it's arguable)

Fokker D.8

The Russians also had an oddball fighter that was a biplane for landing and
takeoff but retracted the lower wing into the upper wing for cruise and
combat. It was pretty vulnerable during the retraction process . . .

Seth


"Ash Wyllie" wrote in message
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ET opined

Matt Whiting wrote in news:wcn%e.1166$lb.94797
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Oh, just the last time that I looked at an F-14, F-15, F-111 or F-18.
Ok, the -18 is maybe a little closer to a mid-wing like the F-16, but I
believe the wing is still above the CG of the airplane and that is what
defines a high wing to me.


OK, change "high wing" to "wing over your head" and my point is still
valid.... I believe all of the above have the wing out of the pilots
vision....



Whether jet fighters are high wing or midwing is an interesting
question...
But how many high wing /piston/ fighters were made[1]?

-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

1. biplanes don't count.



  #96  
Old October 2nd 05, 08:34 AM
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"Nomen Nescio" ] wrote in message
news:

I'm now waiting for some idiot to post that my wife has
"penis envy" 'cause she's driving a SUV.


Took a long time to see that pointed out.

m


  #97  
Old October 2nd 05, 08:36 AM
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message

Seriously, there is no great secret to driving in the snow.
Take it easy, take it slow, allow plenty of room. This doesn't
change one bit whether it's a regular car or an SUV.


Except if you're going uphill. Go hard keep your foot in it. Ice racing is
a cheap sport and an eye opener.

moo



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Old October 2nd 05, 08:39 AM
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"Morgans" wrote in message news:EBI%
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Amazing. That's exactly the airplane I'd pictured when I first read
about Cessna's new plane. A composite Cardinal.


My guess is that it will still be aluminum, but with better aerodynamic
lines. I can't see Cessna going away from what it knows, and what it is
set
up for.

I think there would have been some talk among the community, of composite
guys, or equipment, or companies being pulled in.


Fly a Cirrus. It's free. Then wait for the Cessna version.

moo


  #99  
Old October 2nd 05, 08:50 AM
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Dave,

Unfortunately the Cirrus BRS has a less than stellar performance record.


Care to back that statement up with numbers? IMHO, you're wrong.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old October 2nd 05, 08:59 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Jase,

Perhaps, but the point I'm trying to make is that regardless of the plane,
"Cessna" the brand isn't sexy.


Thanks! At last! What, pray, tell, is inherently good about Cessna? Let alone
"cool" or "sexy".

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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