Change in AIM wording concerning procedure turn

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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You'll find no FAR that explicitly requires performing a charted PT
*regardless* of whether or not the PT meets the TERPS criteria. That
doesn't make all the PTs optional, does it?

Of course not.

So then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of which regulation?

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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So then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of which regulation?


It's never mandatory by virtue of regulation.

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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You'll find no FAR that explicitly requires performing a charted PT
*regardless* of whether or not the PT meets the TERPS criteria. That
doesn't make all the PTs optional, does it?

Of course not.

So then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of which regulation?

It's never mandatory by virtue of regulation.

Then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of what if not regulation?

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of what if not regulation?


It's mandatory when it is necessary to reverse direction to establish the
aircraft on an intermediate or final approach course, by virtue of the need
to reverse direction to establish the aircraft on an intermediate or final
approach course. This really isn't that hard.

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:15:13 -0400, "Gary Drescher"
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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You'll find no FAR that explicitly requires performing a charted PT
*regardless* of whether or not the PT meets the TERPS criteria. That
doesn't make all the PTs optional, does it?

Of course not.

So then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of which regulation?

It's never mandatory by virtue of regulation.

Then when is a PT mandatory, and by virtue of what if not regulation?

--Gary


According to both Jepp, and the FAA (regulatory division counsel), a PT is
mandatory if the pilot is cleared for a SIAP that includes one, and one of
the 91.175 exceptions does not apply.

SIAP's are regulatory, incorporated (by reference) into 14 CFR 97


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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According to both Jepp, and the FAA (regulatory division counsel), a PT is
mandatory if the pilot is cleared for a SIAP that includes one, and one of
the 91.175 exceptions does not apply.


But not according to the FARs.