Runway needs of F4U and F-4 ????

vincent p. norris wrote:

Anyone here old enough to know the take-of distance of an F4U under
ordinary circumstances? (i.e., not loaded to the gills with ammo,
drop tanks, bombs, etc) How about landing roll?

From the Pilot's Handbook for the F4U-1, Hard Surface Runway, Sea
Level, Standard Day, no wind:
Takeoff
at 11,700#, Ground Roll 680 ft, 1,350 ft to clear 50'
At 13,100#, Ground Roll 910 ft, 1,820' to clear 50'
Landing
at 11,000#, 50 degrees flap 2080' to clear 50', 970' ground roll.

For the F4U-5, same conditions, 12,800#,
Takeoff Ground Roll is 730', 1370' to clear 50'
Landing, at 12,000#, 2000' to clear 50', 1050' ground run.



(I realize the answers vary by altitude, temperature, wind, etc.,
but would like just a "round number" answer.)

Can anyone provide the same info for an F-4?

My F-4 books are tucked away at the moment - give me a day.

--
Pete Stickney
Java Man knew nothing about coffee.

From the Pilot's Handbook for the F4U-1.......,

My F-4 books are tucked away at the moment - give me a day.

Thanks, Peter.

vince norris

F4, combat load, my DaNang rule of thumb, max gross+, 1004, sea level,
4400 feet to lift-off. I say max gross plus because for about 9 months
we were taxiing 2-3000 over gross because no one had actually sat down
and updated the weight and balance after various mods and load
additions. One of the benefits? of SACumsized maintenance was that Wing
QC was responsible for all that W&B paperwork and not the squadrons. As
if we worried about it, anyway, at least not until the CBU38 mine
dispensers were loaded on the inboard TERs and the first crew aborted
because the beast wouldn't rotate at 195 KIAS. FWIW our usual load was
CL bag, MERs with 12xMk82, TERs with a jammer, 2xAIM7, 2xAIM9.
Did fly about 2 dozen CAS missions with 18xMk82s.
Walt BJ