private planes lower housing prices

Don't waste your time here.

Most of the people here think you should be absolutely thrilled to hear
the high pitched whine of a C-172 straining for altitude, followed by
another, and another, etc... all day long, starting at 5:00 am.

If you're not, they think you must be a loser washout from flight school,
because everyone thats anyone has a PPL or is working on one.

They will blame YOU for moving close to an airport (even if you are not
close to an airport, or the airport's operations have increased five-fold
over the past ten years, or the airport is planning a "safety" improvement
which involves parallel runways or runway lengthening).

While there are noise restrictions on commercial aircraft (google Stage
III), cars, motorcycles, music, lawnmowers, etc., imposing (or enforcing)
any type of noise restricitons on these 40-year old planes is considered
un-American and impinges on freedom. If you don't like the noise: f-you
and move. GA is the only activity I know of that is exempt from all forms
of noise regulation (except some Calif. airports where the localities had
the kahoonas to make the restrictions mandatory, or to "charge for the
externality" in the form of landing fees, night surcharges, etc. ]

But there is very good news. The bright side of permanently higher energy
prices means less discretionary flying. Upcoming user fees mean less
discretionary flying. The private pilot population is declining (thus the
desperate advertising by flight schools for new students), and
demographically they are old. Population growth means that more people
will be rightfully annoyed by excessive noise.

Airports that try to work with the surrounding community stand a better
chance of survival than those that seek to expand operations and then
argue, "We were here first."

While there are noise restrictions on commercial aircraft (google
Stage III), cars, motorcycles, music, lawnmowers, etc.,

And yet I hear more leaf blowers, loud bikes, fart can ricers and thump cars
than ever. I'd rather hear P-51s go overhead than listen to damn leaf
blowers going all weekend.

They were there first. Move next to the damned airport then, when the
P-51s will drown out all the other noise.

Skylune wrote:
They were there first. Move next to the damned airport then, when the
P-51s will drown out all the other noise.

can't afford it, with all these speculators hogging the properties
while trying to close them off...

--Sylvain

Excellent point. The economic studies of GA airports do include nearby
residential real estate appreciation as another key factor. When a GA
airport is nearby, everyone wins!!!

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:39:41 -0400, "Skylune"
wrote in
outaviation.com::

where the localities had the kahoonas to make the restrictions mandatory

That 'kahoonas' is an interesting word. Unfortunately it's not in my
dictionary, although 'kahuna' is: a Hawaiian witch doctor.

Are you saying the "localities" invoke black magic to restrict
aviation activity?

:-)

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
where the localities had the kahoonas to make the restrictions mandatory

That 'kahoonas' is an interesting word. Unfortunately it's not in my
dictionary, although 'kahuna' is: a Hawaiian witch doctor.

I assume he meant "cojones". Why anyone is bothering to read, never mind
reply to, that troll (or any other, including the recent "I don't like
airplane noise" guy) still is beyond me, whether he can spell or not.

Pete

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:42:59 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in
::

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
where the localities had the kahoonas to make the restrictions mandatory

That 'kahoonas' is an interesting word. Unfortunately it's not in my
dictionary, although 'kahuna' is: a Hawaiian witch doctor.

I assume he meant "cojones". Why anyone is bothering to read, never mind
reply to, that troll (or any other, including the recent "I don't like
airplane noise" guy) still is beyond me, whether he can spell or not.


Oh, it's not about spelling (I would be the last to carp about
spelling); it's about literacy.

I just couldn't resist pointing out 'lune's lack of literacy, so that
those who take the imaginary creation's rhetoric seriously could no
longer ignore its refulgent sciolism.

On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:34:47 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

Oh, it's not about spelling (I would be the last to carp about
spelling); it's about literacy.

I just couldn't resist pointing out 'lune's lack of literacy, so that
those who take the imaginary creation's rhetoric seriously could no
longer ignore its refulgent sciolism.

It's been awhile, but I had to look that up:

refulgent, adj. shining brightly; radiant; gleaming

sciolism , n. superficial knowledge.

Thanks.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Thesaurus does come in handy!