Gas Prices -- Help at last?

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:40:56 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

In case you haven't noticed, "Mass transit" is something most Americans use
only as a last resort -- and for very good reasons.

mostly because of the ego. it is the same here, too. (but using the bus
here is not seen as being poor or something)

#m
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Martin Hotze wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:40:56 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:


In case you haven't noticed, "Mass transit" is something most Americans use
only as a last resort -- and for very good reasons.


mostly because of the ego. it is the same here, too. (but using the bus
here is not seen as being poor or something)

Shows how little you understand Americans.

Matt

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:51:25 GMT, Matt Whiting wrote:

mostly because of the ego. it is the same here, too. (but using the bus
here is not seen as being poor or something)

Shows how little you understand Americans.

Ot might be different in the big metros like NY/DC or LA (IIRC there is a
train connecting cities along the cost) - I've never been to the really big
metros; but the areas where I've been I never saw business-like dressed
people waiting or boarding a bus.

Matt

#m
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Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010920-8.html

In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

but the areas where I've been I never saw business-like dressed
people waiting or boarding a bus.

because it would be a colossal waste of their time?

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
Martin Hotze wrote:

but the areas where I've been I never saw business-like dressed
people waiting or boarding a bus.

because it would be a colossal waste of their time?

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule


But being stopped in rush hour traffic alone in their car isn't? Many commutes in So Cal are 45 minutes or more. Riding
the train or bus allows active work to be done...

In article ,
".Blueskies." wrote:

but the areas where I've been I never saw business-like dressed
people waiting or boarding a bus.

because it would be a colossal waste of their time?

But being stopped in rush hour traffic alone in their car isn't? Many
commutes in So Cal are 45 minutes or more. Riding
the train or bus allows active work to be done...

I suspect that Martin hasn't visited So Cal all that much.

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

Martin Hotze wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:51:25 GMT, Matt Whiting wrote:


mostly because of the ego. it is the same here, too. (but using the bus
here is not seen as being poor or something)

Shows how little you understand Americans.


Ot might be different in the big metros like NY/DC or LA (IIRC there is a
train connecting cities along the cost) - I've never been to the really big
metros; but the areas where I've been I never saw business-like dressed
people waiting or boarding a bus.

There are lots of reasons, but one is that many areas aren't served with
any decent mass transit system. Much of America is rural or suburban
and has no train service and marginal bus service if at all. The buses
run infrequently and don't always stop in convenient locations.

Also, they are very inconvenient compared to cars, except in the most
urban areas where car parking is a big problem. Cars take you where you
want to go, when you want to go there and do so in great comfort
compared to most mass transit.


Matt

In case you haven't noticed, "Mass transit" is something most Americans
use
only as a last resort -- and for very good reasons.

mostly because of the ego. it is the same here, too. (but using the bus
here is not seen as being poor or something)

That's not the problem -- at least not in small-to-medium sized American
cities.

I, for example, would be a perfect candidate for mass transit. My home is
four miles from my office, and I arrive and depart work at about the same
times each day. (And I've got two vehicles at the inn to use, should I need
them in a pinch.)

The bus stops 1 block from my home -- which sucks in bad weather. It then
goes downtown -- a distance of 2.5 miles -- but takes forever to get there.
It travels down narrow city streets that were never designed for busses,
stopping every block, backing up traffic everywhere along the way.

Once downtown, I would have to transfer to another bus to travel the
remaining 1.5 mile to the hotel, with it once again stopping every 200 yards
along the way. The entire trip would take a bit more than an hour.

Or, I can drive to my office in less than 15 minutes.

The real, understated problem with mass transit is that productive people
have better things to do with their time.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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I, for example, would be a perfect candidate for mass transit. My
home is four miles from my office,

Your route sounds like an even better candidate for a bicycle commute.

"JohnH" wrote in message
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I, for example, would be a perfect candidate for mass transit. My
home is four miles from my office,

Your route sounds like an even better candidate for a bicycle commute.

This sounds like a certain death sentence, to me.

There are no provisions for bike lanes, and traffic would soon kill bike
riders. Once again, it is the problem of the vastness of the US, that
prohibits building enough bike lanes to make a significant difference.
--
Jim in NC