Jabiru 120hp 6 cylinder

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John,

For those of us who use Mozilla/Thunderbird/Netscape there is the
concept of putting someone in your message filters. Don't know if this
possible in Microsoft land, but should be.

Evan

UltraJohn wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:



This is the second topic Mr Bret has been on and he has not made one
positive comment yet! He is just flaming and trying to spred hate and
discontent. Just ignore him.
John


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Evan Carew wrote:


For those of us who use Mozilla/Thunderbird/Netscape there is the
concept of putting someone in your message filters. Don't know if this
possible in Microsoft land, but should be.

Evan



Yes Evan
I run both Netscape and Opera browsers and I heavily use filers, mainly on
my e-mail but occasionally on the newsgroups too. Mostly I just look at the
poster and if it is one known to flame I just don't open it and when I
finish ready I select "mark all as read" and delete.
I enjoy a lot of the postings and feel putting up with a few idiots worth
the others.
John

UltraJohn wrote:
Evan Carew wrote:


For those of us who use Mozilla/Thunderbird/Netscape there is the
concept of putting someone in your message filters. Don't know if this
possible in Microsoft land, but should be.


Do what thou wilt.

Apparently the current US distributors are not the problem, but rather
a previous one. I remember very well a post on Usenet about a guy who
bought an engine overseas, before a US dealer existed. When one was
appointed, he refused to sell the guy any parts to punish him for
buying it "around him", even though he wasn't the dealer then, and the
works refused to ship him parts because there was a dealer in the US!
However I am unable to find that post.

Still, the Jabiru is an expensive noncertificated engine, with only
one parts line, and it turns a small prop fast. In that it combines the
lesserly-desirable aspects of aircraft engines and non-aircraft engines.

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
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Do what thou wilt.

Apparently the current US distributors are not the problem, but rather
a previous one. I remember very well a post on Usenet about a guy who
bought an engine overseas, before a US dealer existed. When one was
appointed, he refused to sell the guy any parts to punish him for
buying it "around him", even though he wasn't the dealer then, and the
works refused to ship him parts because there was a dealer in the US!
However I am unable to find that post.


That story is about as old as those Lyco's your referred to. Not surprised
you can't find it, it predates even Google..

So you decide to judge an engine and/or distributor based on a single
occurrance of a bad business transaction of over 5 years ago, where someone
decided to save a few pennies by grey importing an engine and then didn't
get the service he desired from the locally assigned distributor.
This guys has in effect become his own distributor and having to buy his
spare parts directly from the factory serves him right. The local
distributor didn't punish him, he probably didn't want the responsibility
for delivering parts to an engine of unknown origin/history and having to
deal with a widow on his doorstep if things went wrong.

Still, the Jabiru is an expensive noncertificated engine, with only
one parts line, and it turns a small prop fast. In that it combines the
lesserly-desirable aspects of aircraft engines and non-aircraft engines.

The average 3300 runs at ~2700 rpm cruise speed with a 68" prop. Direct
drive, so no redrive in between that can fail. Redline at 3300 rpm. How much
different is that from a Lyco? And how did you manage to put a Rotax as well
as Subaru/Corvair/whatever car conversion at 5000+ rpm and a heavy,
error-prone redrive in the "more desirable aspects" category of engines??

Rob

Rob Turk wrote:
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That story is about as old as those Lyco's your referred to. Not surprised
you can't find it, it predates even Google..

So you decide to judge an engine and/or distributor based on a single
occurrance of a bad business transaction of over 5 years ago, where someone
decided to save a few pennies by grey importing an engine and then didn't
get the service he desired from the locally assigned distributor.
This guys has in effect become his own distributor and having to buy his
spare parts directly from the factory serves him right. The local
distributor didn't punish him, he probably didn't want the responsibility
for delivering parts to an engine of unknown origin/history and having to
deal with a widow on his doorstep if things went wrong.

Phooey. It's a stock factory engine. The dealer was being a high hard
one. The engine was of known history, was bought direct when there was
no dealer, the factory knew the guy.

Still, the Jabiru is an expensive noncertificated engine, with only
one parts line, and it turns a small prop fast. In that it combines the
lesserly-desirable aspects of aircraft engines and non-aircraft engines.

The average 3300 runs at ~2700 rpm cruise speed with a 68" prop. Direct
drive, so no redrive in between that can fail. Redline at 3300 rpm. How much
different is that from a Lyco? And how did you manage to put a Rotax as well
as Subaru/Corvair/whatever car conversion at 5000+ rpm and a heavy,
error-prone redrive in the "more desirable aspects" category of engines??

That's direct drive VW or Corvair category.

No direct drive Lyc turns that fast. Maybe in helos, but not turning a
prop. Well, maybe the old cast iron O-145 did-it belongs in the museum
with Pobjoys and Bristol Cherubs.

The redrive on a general purpose (never say "car", a Cigarette boat or
irrigation pump is no car...) engine is a big asset, not a liability.
It's why you can run the engine with no prop and why a prop strike will
bend a $300 hub instead of a $3000 crank.