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Old October 12th 05, 09:20 PM
jwilljr
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Tamara Whitman wrote:
"The plane, a $7 million Cessna Citation 7, was found at the
Gwinnett County Airport-Briscoe Field on Monday and remained
there this morning, said Darren Moloney, spokesman for the
Gwinnett County Police Department. The plane is owned by Pinnacle
Air of Springdale, Ark., which had no comment on the incident
today."

"Planes are easy to steal if you know how to fly them, because
they usually do not require a key to start the engines, Gwinnett
County Police Sgt. D. Mattox told the Gwinnett Daily Post."
--Damn he's giving away all the secrets!

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3391484


Man Arrested, Charged in Jet Joy Ride

http://tinyurl.com/a55cu

Jerry
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Old October 12th 05, 09:43 PM
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"jwilljr" wrote in message
...
Tamara Whitman wrote:
"The plane, a $7 million Cessna Citation 7, was found at the
Gwinnett County Airport-Briscoe Field on Monday and remained
there this morning, said Darren Moloney, spokesman for the
Gwinnett County Police Department. The plane is owned by Pinnacle
Air of Springdale, Ark., which had no comment on the incident
today."

"Planes are easy to steal if you know how to fly them, because
they usually do not require a key to start the engines, Gwinnett
County Police Sgt. D. Mattox told the Gwinnett Daily Post."
--Damn he's giving away all the secrets!

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3391484


Man Arrested, Charged in Jet Joy Ride

http://tinyurl.com/a55cu

Jerry


Here are the alleged thief's ratings.

CertIficate: COMMERCIAL PILOT

Rating(s):

COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE









Type Ratings


C/IA-JET




Limits


THIS CERTIFICATE IS SUBJECT TO PILOT-IN-COMMAND LIMITATION FOR IA-JET.


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Old October 12th 05, 10:38 PM
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Wow... what a way to ruin one's chances at ever having a flying career.

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Guy

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Old October 12th 05, 11:24 PM
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"Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wow... what a way to ruin one's chances at ever having a flying career.

--
Guy


My thoughts exactly, good luck finding an aviation job in a non-third world
country.

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DW


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Old October 12th 05, 11:36 PM
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"Guy Elden Jr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wow... what a way to ruin one's chances at ever having a flying
career.

--
Guy


My thoughts exactly, good luck finding an aviation job in a non-third
world country.

-----------------------------------------------
DW


For a great fictional book about a pilot in just this situation, check
out "Island of the Sequined Love Nun" by Christopher Moore. In the
story, the pilot takes his employers pink Lear on a joy ride and crashes
it trying to join the mile-high-club. One of my favorite books of all
time.

well, that was totally off-topic...
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Old October 12th 05, 11:43 PM
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Well, first, thank god no one was hurt or killed (apparently). Second,
this is an excellent data point for the ADIZ controversy and for the GA
airport security debate. Outstanding actually!

I will be interested to see how Phil Boyer spins this latest incident to
"prove" how effective security is at GA airports, and to show that the
ADIZ is unnecessary. After all, how much damage could a stolen GA Jet do??
A truck, or even a Hyundai is more dangerous, right? Good thing he filed
the request (on the Docket Management System) for public hearings on making
the ADIZ permanent. Be careful what you wish for Phil!!!

Now, lets watch as the politicos (mainly the odious duo of
Schumer/Hillary) chime in. The media is all over it already, so the pols
are sure to follow!

Then the editorials will follow.

And I guess Big Phil will have to get yet another new bumper sticker to
replace the "I fly a C-150, ....fear me!" one. The repurcussions of the
stolen jet (a jet!!!!) are vast, and very exciting for anti-GA activists
such as myself.

Hey, I wonder if the AOPA advertising budget will have to go up when the
new propoganda ad appears in USA Today and other publications.

Boy, this is gonna be really fun.



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Old October 13th 05, 12:16 AM
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Although, Phil may point out that the ADIZ s/b only applicable to high
performance prop planes or jets, to protect the recreational pilots (the
prime initiative of the AOPA).

This could cause a split between the AOPA and the organization that
represents business pilots (akin to what happened about 10-12 years ago in
that user fee debate).

Will be very interesting to watch.

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Old October 13th 05, 06:52 PM
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Ugh. I cringed when I read about this, not just because I couldn't
believe anyone would be stupid enough to try something like that, but I
knew the knee-jerk anti-GA types (Skylune) would jump all over this...
and I was right.

I read on AvFlash the crew left the plane unlocked on the ramp (major
violation of ramp security and common sense) which was tempting enough
to lure some dumbass kid into an even dumber stunt. Unbelievable. A 22
year old kid that probably wanted to fly for a living now with a
useless type rating and a felony charge w/five misdemeanor counts to
boot. The pax apparently didn't know the plane was stolen. (haven't
figured that part out yet)

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Old October 13th 05, 07:30 PM
Skylune
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"but I
knew the knee-jerk anti-GA types (Skylune) would jump all over this...
and I was right."

Knee-jerk? I've been at this quite some time. "Anti-GA" is really just
short-hand. I just think there should be much stricter regulation of GA,
real enforcement of the FARs, that the FAA is hopelessly conflicted in its
roles, that obtaining a PPL is much too easy (having had some limited
experience here myself, and flying with my GPS challenged buddy), and that
the subsidies s/b curtailed.

I would not propose tearing the yoke out of any qualified pilot's hands,
anymore than I would want someone to tell me I had to hand in my Mossberg
(to go back to the gun ownership vs. right to fly analogy).

Just watch, my predictions will materialize:
1. Press reaction (justified- I mean a stolen jet is certainly
newsworthy)
2. Political opportunism: Here's Chuck and Hillary!
3. Editorializing.

Its as predicatable as the tides. What I'm waiting is to see how the AOPA
reacts, and how this most recent incident factors into the the ADIZ and GA
airport security debate.


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Old October 13th 05, 07:33 PM
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I read on AvFlash the crew left the plane unlocked on the ramp (major
violation of ramp security and common sense) which was tempting enough
to lure some dumbass kid into an even dumber stunt.


Lure? I didn't know unlocked planes exuded an aura.

Jose
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