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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:54:22 +0200, Bruce wrote:
...... We looked at the B40 vs Tasman recently for our club ships. In the end we decided on the Tasman because it has no moving parts, and has the built in averager. I've flown with a Tasmin once and liked it: the new vario down noise sounds like an improvement. The major advantage of the B.40 is its backup 9v battery: I think its really important that a backup vario can operate with a dead main battery. The Tasman literature mentions the possibility of using a backup battery too, but its either well-hidden or absent from the installation and user manual. I couldn't find a clear reference in the price list either despite it being quoted as an option. Do you use backup batteries with your Tasmans? BTW, I have an SDI C4 that I intend to retain as my main vario. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Hi Martin,
The use of a 9 V battery for backup power for the Tasman is shown in the installation manual he http://www.tasmaninstruments.com/doc...allation_b.PDF I have recently asked the manufacturer to verify as what voltage the audio stops functioning. That point is a little unclear in the manuals. Good Soaring, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:54:22 +0200, Bruce wrote: ..... We looked at the B40 vs Tasman recently for our club ships. In the end we decided on the Tasman because it has no moving parts, and has the built in averager. I've flown with a Tasmin once and liked it: the new vario down noise sounds like an improvement. The major advantage of the B.40 is its backup 9v battery: I think its really important that a backup vario can operate with a dead main battery. The Tasman literature mentions the possibility of using a backup battery too, but its either well-hidden or absent from the installation and user manual. I couldn't find a clear reference in the price list either despite it being quoted as an option. Do you use backup batteries with your Tasmans? BTW, I have an SDI C4 that I intend to retain as my main vario. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:21:50 +0000, Paul Remde wrote:
Hi Paul, Here's what I find confusing: - the PK312 aux. power supply still doesn't appear on the mfr's web site other than as a block on the installation diagram. No web site, not even yours, has any details of its internal functions, battery type or price. - the specs. refer to different 'battery low' alarm points: as the PK312 apparently connects to the vario by the same two wires as the main battery I'd like to know just how the Vario knows which battery it is being supplied by. I very much like the idea of a solid state device without a mechanical display; I just wish I knew more about the PK312. Hi Martin, The use of a 9 V battery for backup power for the Tasman is shown in the installation manual he http://www.tasmaninstruments.com/doc...allation_b.PDF I have recently asked the manufacturer to verify as what voltage the audio stops functioning. That point is a little unclear in the manuals. Good Soaring, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:54:22 +0200, Bruce wrote: ..... We looked at the B40 vs Tasman recently for our club ships. In the end we decided on the Tasman because it has no moving parts, and has the built in averager. I've flown with a Tasmin once and liked it: the new vario down noise sounds like an improvement. The major advantage of the B.40 is its backup 9v battery: I think its really important that a backup vario can operate with a dead main battery. The Tasman literature mentions the possibility of using a backup battery too, but its either well-hidden or absent from the installation and user manual. I couldn't find a clear reference in the price list either despite it being quoted as an option. Do you use backup batteries with your Tasmans? BTW, I have an SDI C4 that I intend to retain as my main vario. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Hi Martin,
Those are very good questions. Your timing is impeccable. Just this morning I e-mailed similar questions to the manufacturer, added the PK312 power pack to my web site, and ordered some of the units for my stock. I'll know more about it soon and will respond to this better at that time. It is my understanding that the PK312 is a battery box for a single 9V alkaline battery. I'm assuming that it must connect to the vario using a different + wire than is used for the 12V battery. A single 4-wire phone style cable is used for 12V power and common, 9V power and the speaker. If they didn't use separate wires for 9V and 12V power the 9V battery would be damaged by 12+ volts. The biggest question I have is at what voltage the audio stops functioning. It is unclear to me in the manual. The Tasman has been a very popular product. I have not received any complaints about the units I've sold. I also like that it has an averager display on the face of the unit. Good Soaring, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:21:50 +0000, Paul Remde wrote: Hi Paul, Here's what I find confusing: - the PK312 aux. power supply still doesn't appear on the mfr's web site other than as a block on the installation diagram. No web site, not even yours, has any details of its internal functions, battery type or price. - the specs. refer to different 'battery low' alarm points: as the PK312 apparently connects to the vario by the same two wires as the main battery I'd like to know just how the Vario knows which battery it is being supplied by. I very much like the idea of a solid state device without a mechanical display; I just wish I knew more about the PK312. Hi Martin, The use of a 9 V battery for backup power for the Tasman is shown in the installation manual he http://www.tasmaninstruments.com/doc...allation_b.PDF I have recently asked the manufacturer to verify as what voltage the audio stops functioning. That point is a little unclear in the manuals. Good Soaring, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:54:22 +0200, Bruce wrote: ..... We looked at the B40 vs Tasman recently for our club ships. In the end we decided on the Tasman because it has no moving parts, and has the built in averager. I've flown with a Tasmin once and liked it: the new vario down noise sounds like an improvement. The major advantage of the B.40 is its backup 9v battery: I think its really important that a backup vario can operate with a dead main battery. The Tasman literature mentions the possibility of using a backup battery too, but its either well-hidden or absent from the installation and user manual. I couldn't find a clear reference in the price list either despite it being quoted as an option. Do you use backup batteries with your Tasmans? BTW, I have an SDI C4 that I intend to retain as my main vario. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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From unfortunate personal experience the audio cuts out at around 9.5V, and the
whole plot dies somewhere 8V. Quite outstanding - my . Note to self - NEVER fly with a suspect battery again. Cheers Bruce Paul Remde wrote: Hi Martin, The use of a 9 V battery for backup power for the Tasman is shown in the installation manual he http://www.tasmaninstruments.com/doc...allation_b.PDF I have recently asked the manufacturer to verify as what voltage the audio stops functioning. That point is a little unclear in the manuals. Good Soaring, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com "Martin Gregorie" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:54:22 +0200, Bruce wrote: ..... We looked at the B40 vs Tasman recently for our club ships. In the end we decided on the Tasman because it has no moving parts, and has the built in averager. I've flown with a Tasmin once and liked it: the new vario down noise sounds like an improvement. The major advantage of the B.40 is its backup 9v battery: I think its really important that a backup vario can operate with a dead main battery. The Tasman literature mentions the possibility of using a backup battery too, but its either well-hidden or absent from the installation and user manual. I couldn't find a clear reference in the price list either despite it being quoted as an option. Do you use backup batteries with your Tasmans? BTW, I have an SDI C4 that I intend to retain as my main vario. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | -- Bruce Greeff Std Cirrus #57 I'm no-T at the address above. |
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