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Old October 13th 05, 07:33 PM
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I read on AvFlash the crew left the plane unlocked on the ramp (major
violation of ramp security and common sense) which was tempting enough
to lure some dumbass kid into an even dumber stunt.


Lure? I didn't know unlocked planes exuded an aura.

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Old October 13th 05, 09:22 PM
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Lure? I didn't know unlocked planes exuded an aura.

Meh. Just a figure of speech. Not to be taken literally.

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Old October 13th 05, 09:42 PM
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Lure? I didn't know unlocked planes exuded an aura.

Meh. Just a figure of speech. Not to be taken literally.


Maybe a figure of speech, but it makes a strong implication that is
harmful to the community. For the jet to have been accidentally left
open, AND for that same jet to be stolen, would require either people
prowling for an open jet and getting lucky (this implies that there
probably would be lots of people doing this to get lucky so fast), or
that somehow the prowlers had some inkling that this particular jet, on
this particular day, was a good target.

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Old October 14th 05, 02:19 PM
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Maybe a figure of speech, but it makes a strong implication that is harmful to the community. For the jet to have been accidentally left open, AND for that same jet to be stolen, would require either people prowling for an open jet and getting lucky (this implies that there probably would be lots of people doing this to get lucky so fast), or that somehow the prowlers had some inkling that this particular jet, on this particular day, was a good target


A friend of mine is a tower controller at St. Augustine where the plane
was stolen from. Apparently the father of the punk-ass kid that stole
it owns a charter company. I don't know if the jet was owned by this or
some other company. I understand what you're saying by the
implications. I think in this case it was just a bored young punk with
a jet type rating looking for something to do. He may have talked with
the crew and knew the door wasn't locked? I doubt just anyone getting
into one of those things could even get the engines started - that
takes training and understanding. It's not as if any shmuck could
figure out how to start the engines on a Citation (without destroying
them in a hot start). It ain't a Cessna.

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Old October 14th 05, 02:26 PM
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In article .com,
" wrote:

I doubt just anyone getting into one of those things could even get
the engines started - that takes training and understanding. It's not
as if any shmuck could figure out how to start the engines on a
Citation (without destroying them in a hot start).


I looked his name up in the FAA database, and he has a Westwind type
rating. While there will obviously be systems differences, I'm sure he
has enough knowledge to get it up and running without too much
difficulty.

It ain't a Cessna.


Well, actually it is. grin

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Old October 14th 05, 03:09 PM
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It ain't a Cessna.


Well, actually it is. grin


Oy. Yeah I caught that just *after* I hit the Post button...

I've read from several different sources he had a Citation 1A type
rating. That's the first time I've heard about the Westwind, but you
know how the media screws up details when it comes to aviation...

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Old October 14th 05, 04:18 PM
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In article . com,
" wrote:

I've read from several different sources he had a Citation 1A type
rating. That's the first time I've heard about the Westwind, but you
know how the media screws up details when it comes to aviation...


Yep. Makes me more than a little cynical when I hear them reporting on
other topics, knowing how badly they screw up this one.

His rating was "IA-JET," which is the code for the Westwind. The
original Citation came out in 1972, followed by the Citation I in 1976.
There was never a "1A."

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Old October 14th 05, 03:06 PM
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe a figure of speech, but it makes a strong implication that is

harmful to the community. For the jet to have been accidentally left open,
AND for that same jet to be stolen, would require either people prowling for
an open jet and getting lucky (this implies that there probably would be
lots of people doing this to get lucky so fast), or that somehow the
prowlers had some inkling that this particular jet, on this particular day,
was a good target


A friend of mine is a tower controller at St. Augustine where the plane
was stolen from. Apparently the father of the punk-ass kid that stole
it owns a charter company. I don't know if the jet was owned by this or
some other company. I understand what you're saying by the
implications. I think in this case it was just a bored young punk with
a jet type rating looking for something to do. He may have talked with
the crew and knew the door wasn't locked? I doubt just anyone getting
into one of those things could even get the engines started - that
takes training and understanding. It's not as if any shmuck could
figure out how to start the engines on a Citation (without destroying
them in a hot start). It ain't a Cessna.


Well, actually it is a Cessna. :-)


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Old October 14th 05, 03:14 PM
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Well, actually it is a Cessna. :-)

Didn't take long to pick up on that eh?? *grimace*

What I meant to say was "It ain't a 172..."

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Old October 14th 05, 08:29 PM
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More Ha Ha. Put this in your pipe and smoke it. The list is growing too!

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/

 




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