Stolen Jet found in Georgia

obtaining a PPL is much too easy

Really? I'm a CFI and I can tell ya these aren't just given away

FAA is hopelessly conflicted in its roles

No argument there, it's a disgustingly inefficient bureacreacy

and flying with my GPS challenged buddy

One pilot's inability to to learn new equipment doesn't condemn the
whole flying population. That's a poor argument

how this most recent incident factors into the the ADIZ and GA airport security debate

It's strictly an airport security issue. The crew goofed by leaving the
acft unlocked on the ramp. It has nothing to do with any ADIZ as no
ADIZ was violated. Even the TSA is saying that.

Agreed, that they don't just "give these things away." But wouldn't you
agree, that once you get your ticket, it is very possible to not stay
current or proficient if you don't practice regularly? Would you agree
that there are some pilots out there who got their PPL long ago, and now
fly so infrequently as to be a danger to themselves, their passengers, or
those below?

Personally, I think a VFR ticket only s/b eliminated. All pilots should
have to be able to fly IFR. That would eliminate hundreds of mishaps per
year. Nothings perfect of course, but these learn to fly in a month
schools are insane, IMHO.

BTW, the reason I stopped training after about 15 hours was not that I
couldn't ultimately get the ticket. I realized that it would take
constant dedication, and lots of time, to stay safe as a PPL. Too many
other pulls on my time, and too many other interests. So I pulled the
plug. I still think it was the right thing to do.

Ironically, now that I am about to semi-retire, I may actually pick it up
again. But I would certainly want to buy a fairly new plane. And I would
expect to pay my user fees for the "right" to fly.

Ironically, now that I am about to semi-retire, I may actually pick it up
again. But I would certainly want to buy a fairly new plane.

Then you could patrol the skiing NG's and scold all the would be skiers
that only go skiing once or twice a year ;-)

Particularly the larger built ones, or the older ones who's eye sight
might be failing!

Hours of new fun, for when your a pilot and the weather is stopping you
flying.

What does one have to do with the other?????

If skiers start racing across my property and waking me up and making a
racket and breaking all kinds of laws, I will harass them. When I was an
ski instructor in my 20s and when people skied recklessly, we had the
power to clip their tickets. Usually, you would put a red stripe on the
ticket first, as a warning. Then if the transgressor did it again, it got
clipped and he/she could head to the bar where they belong. Many skiers
routinely admonish others who break the rules (although it is usually the
boarders who do stupid stuff). I wish more pilots and airport sponsors
would police their own, since the FAA really doesn't give a damn about
noise abatement, busting the 1000 ft minimum, etc.

If I decide to pursue my PPL in another year or so, I will obey the FARs
and noise abatement procedures. I would not join AOPA under any
circumstances of course. ;-)

Are u gonna pursue your pilot license, or are you gonna drop out like
Skylune did?

Skylune wrote:
If skiers start racing across my property

that's where you are obviously confused: I don't
know about skiiers, but I can assure you that
no airplane has *ever* flown through your property,
and never will, because the airspace above your property
is not yours in the first place; you should have
asked before buying anything...

--Sylvain

See, now that's the utter denial that really ****es me off.

Planes bust the 1000 ft minimum all the time near my NH house, which is 5
miles from the airport. Where I'm moving from, very close to Republic
airport on LI, no noise issue whatsoever (thats where I trained for a
time). It shows that the airport sponsor is primarily responsible for
community relations.

Pending court cases (and settled ones as well) will determine the extent
of community control. You like the FAA asleep at the switch attitude when
it benefits you (i.e. the FARs, no teeth in noise abatement), and hate them
when they want to impose user fees, or get pushed into endorsing the ADIZ.

Planes bust the 1000 ft minimum all the time near my NH house, which is 5
miles from the airport.

Are you in a "congested area"? If not, the minimum is five hundred feet.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

What does one have to do with the other?????

Nothing at all, but there does appear to be a re-occuring subject in
some of your reply posts, it all seems to come back to how badly pilots
are trained in the US?

Maybe you should travel abroad for your training and cert? ;-)

Are u gonna pursue your pilot license, or are you gonna drop out like
Skylune did?

You really have no concept of enjoying the journey do you! I will never
'drop out' of enjoying flying, now I've found that I do! :-)

If I have the inclination then yes, I will go for a PPL, but if I don't
get that far, I'm not going to get bitter and twisted about it, I'm not
going to label myself a 'drop out, loser or failure' and spend my time
moaning at others who have got theirs! And I won't be waiting till
early retirement either, even early would be a long way off for me.

I will fly when I want too, and enjoy the flying I do, and if its
enough to go for a license, then thats a bonus.

You have to live your life everyday, nobody can say for sure they will
be here tomorrow. I'm sure there is some poor guy who died doing his
check flight? But I would hope he was the sort to have enjoyed the
training :-)

Regards

"Skylune" wrote in message
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Personally, I think a VFR ticket only s/b eliminated. All pilots should
have to be able to fly IFR. That would eliminate hundreds of mishaps per
year. Nothings perfect of course, but these learn to fly in a month
schools are insane, IMHO.


Why don't you propose a way to fix all the accidents on the road first. I'd
rather fly with a pilot (graduated from the month long school) than half the
drivers on the street today.

1. there are many idiots on the road, no doubt. (I see some of them
pulling out of the parking lot at the local GA airport).

2. accident rates (adjusted for per capita, miles travelled, etc.) points
to GA as far more dangerous than driving a car, and even a motorcycle.
You've seen the studies.

3. just because there are idiot drivers, does not mean that GA should get
a total pass.