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Old October 13th 05, 10:37 PM
Skylune
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What does one have to do with the other?????

If skiers start racing across my property and waking me up and making a
racket and breaking all kinds of laws, I will harass them. When I was an
ski instructor in my 20s and when people skied recklessly, we had the
power to clip their tickets. Usually, you would put a red stripe on the
ticket first, as a warning. Then if the transgressor did it again, it got
clipped and he/she could head to the bar where they belong. Many skiers
routinely admonish others who break the rules (although it is usually the
boarders who do stupid stuff). I wish more pilots and airport sponsors
would police their own, since the FAA really doesn't give a damn about
noise abatement, busting the 1000 ft minimum, etc.

If I decide to pursue my PPL in another year or so, I will obey the FARs
and noise abatement procedures. I would not join AOPA under any
circumstances of course. ;-)

Are u gonna pursue your pilot license, or are you gonna drop out like
Skylune did?

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Old October 14th 05, 04:22 AM
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Skylune wrote:
If skiers start racing across my property


that's where you are obviously confused: I don't
know about skiiers, but I can assure you that
no airplane has *ever* flown through your property,
and never will, because the airspace above your property
is not yours in the first place; you should have
asked before buying anything...

--Sylvain
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Old October 14th 05, 07:19 PM
Skylune
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See, now that's the utter denial that really ****es me off.

Planes bust the 1000 ft minimum all the time near my NH house, which is 5
miles from the airport. Where I'm moving from, very close to Republic
airport on LI, no noise issue whatsoever (thats where I trained for a
time). It shows that the airport sponsor is primarily responsible for
community relations.

Pending court cases (and settled ones as well) will determine the extent
of community control. You like the FAA asleep at the switch attitude when
it benefits you (i.e. the FARs, no teeth in noise abatement), and hate them
when they want to impose user fees, or get pushed into endorsing the ADIZ.


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Old October 14th 05, 07:30 PM
Jose
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Planes bust the 1000 ft minimum all the time near my NH house, which is 5
miles from the airport.


Are you in a "congested area"? If not, the minimum is five hundred feet.

Jose
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Old October 14th 05, 07:50 PM
Skylune
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I know that, and yes, I am. It is not rural. In close proximity to Nashua
New Hampshire.

And, I'm pretty sure, the fAA has no definition of "rural." Maybe its up
to the pilots to define?

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Old October 14th 05, 08:22 PM
Jose
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And, I'm pretty sure, the fAA has no definition of "rural." Maybe its up
to the pilots to define?


"Not congested" does not equate to "rural". In a rural area, one must
be five hundred feet away from structures and such, but any safe
altitude above the ground. In an area that's not rural but not
congested, five hundred feet above the ground.

The FAA definitions of "congested" and "rural" are top-secret, and
revealed on a need-to-know basis after the fact. But you knew this.

As a working definition I use the yellow areas of the sectional as
"congested", and any place that looks like is should be yellow. If I've
got plenty of places to put it down should the cooling fan quit, I don't
consider it congested. (It's about hazard, not noise).

Jose
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Old October 14th 05, 08:27 PM
Skylune
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Ha ha.

This is another ancient relic FAA regulation from a simpler, earlier time
when there were vast unpopulated areas of the country.

But you've answered my question. Its another rule which needs to be
changed to keep up with the times.

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Old October 14th 05, 11:34 PM
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Planes bust the 1000 ft minimum all the time near my NH house, which is

5
miles from the airport.


Are you in a "congested area"? If not, the minimum is five hundred feet.


It matters not what the law is, when skylooneybird is speaking. He has
already admitted hacking into AOPA's web site. I repeat, the law does not
matter.

If airplanes are at legal altitude, and fly where *he* thinks they are too
loud, or too close, or too early, he is ****ed. They are flying legally. I
repeat, the law matters not, to skylooneybird.

Why doesn't somebody just step on him?
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Jim in NC

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Old October 17th 05, 08:15 PM
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Jose wrote:
Planes bust the 1000 ft minimum all the time near my NH house, which is 5
miles from the airport.


Are you in a "congested area"? If not, the minimum is five hundred feet.


.... "except for takeoff and landing"...

Ya know, in the high density altitude situations, sometimes I am
5 miles from the airport before I EVER get 1000 AGL. :-)

Consider pattern altitude at Leadville: 11,000 MSL, with the
density altitude at 13,000.


Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

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Old October 14th 05, 11:19 PM
Ice blonde
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What does one have to do with the other?????

Nothing at all, but there does appear to be a re-occuring subject in
some of your reply posts, it all seems to come back to how badly pilots
are trained in the US?

Maybe you should travel abroad for your training and cert? ;-)

Are u gonna pursue your pilot license, or are you gonna drop out like
Skylune did?


You really have no concept of enjoying the journey do you! I will never
'drop out' of enjoying flying, now I've found that I do! :-)

If I have the inclination then yes, I will go for a PPL, but if I don't
get that far, I'm not going to get bitter and twisted about it, I'm not
going to label myself a 'drop out, loser or failure' and spend my time
moaning at others who have got theirs! And I won't be waiting till
early retirement either, even early would be a long way off for me.

I will fly when I want too, and enjoy the flying I do, and if its
enough to go for a license, then thats a bonus.

You have to live your life everyday, nobody can say for sure they will
be here tomorrow. I'm sure there is some poor guy who died doing his
check flight? But I would hope he was the sort to have enjoyed the
training :-)

Regards

 




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