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Old October 17th 05, 05:47 AM
Paul Stuart
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From what I recall the accident in Colorado some years back involved a
young person that had got involved with his local EAA Chapter, and was
being rewarded with a flight after helping out at a Young Eagles event
- but it was not technically a Young Eagles flight i.e. the flight
wouldn't have been recorded in the Young Eagles logbook had it ended
safely.

Anyway... I guess all thoughts should really be with families of the
deceased.

Ron Lee wrote:
That story is incorrect in that there were two killed in a YE flight
at 00V several years ago.

Ron Lee


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Old October 18th 05, 12:34 AM
Ron Natalie
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Paul Stuart wrote:
From what I recall the accident in Colorado some years back involved a

young person that had got involved with his local EAA Chapter, and was
being rewarded with a flight after helping out at a Young Eagles event
- but it was not technically a Young Eagles flight i.e. the flight
wouldn't have been recorded in the Young Eagles logbook had it ended
safely.

Why wouldn't it? The only requirement is the kid be be within the
right ages and the pilot be an EAA member. You can issue the
certificate and forward the info to the EAA for the logbook and
your YE pilot credits.
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Old October 18th 05, 09:39 PM
Paul Stuart
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EAA can't be held responsible for every single flight that might be
carried out by one of its members with any child on board.

A Young Eagles flight takes place when an official EAA form is filled
out prior to the flight. This form records the child's details and
makes sure that permission for the flight has been granted by a parent
or legal guardian. This is also the form that is sent to Oshkosh to be
entered in the Young Eagles database. If this form is completed, then
yes it's a Young Eagles flight, EAA takes responsibility for it, and -
provided the pilot has met requirements - the flight is covered under
the insurance program.



Ron Natalie wrote:
Paul Stuart wrote:
From what I recall the accident in Colorado some years back involved a

young person that had got involved with his local EAA Chapter, and was
being rewarded with a flight after helping out at a Young Eagles event
- but it was not technically a Young Eagles flight i.e. the flight
wouldn't have been recorded in the Young Eagles logbook had it ended
safely.

Why wouldn't it? The only requirement is the kid be be within the
right ages and the pilot be an EAA member. You can issue the
certificate and forward the info to the EAA for the logbook and
your YE pilot credits.


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Old October 18th 05, 09:49 PM
Gary Drescher
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"Paul Stuart" wrote in message
oups.com...
A Young Eagles flight takes place when an official EAA form is filled
out prior to the flight. This form records the child's details and
makes sure that permission for the flight has been granted by a parent
or legal guardian. This is also the form that is sent to Oshkosh to be
entered in the Young Eagles database. If this form is completed, then
yes it's a Young Eagles flight, EAA takes responsibility for it, and -
provided the pilot has met requirements - the flight is covered under
the insurance program.


The question, though, is whether the form is always mailed before the flight
starts (as is supposed to be done with Angel Flight liability waivers, for
example), or whether the form is often taken on board and not mailed until
afterward. If the latter, then YE's official safety record may be
misleading, since some fatal flights won't count as YE flights even though
they would've counted if they'd been successful.

--Gary


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Old October 18th 05, 10:01 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
"Paul Stuart" wrote in message
oups.com...
A Young Eagles flight takes place when an official EAA form is filled
out prior to the flight. This form records the child's details and
makes sure that permission for the flight has been granted by a parent
or legal guardian. This is also the form that is sent to Oshkosh to be
entered in the Young Eagles database. If this form is completed, then
yes it's a Young Eagles flight, EAA takes responsibility for it, and -
provided the pilot has met requirements - the flight is covered under
the insurance program.


The question, though, is whether the form is always mailed before the

flight
starts (as is supposed to be done with Angel Flight liability waivers, for
example), or whether the form is often taken on board and not mailed until
afterward. If the latter, then YE's official safety record may be
misleading, since some fatal flights won't count as YE flights even though
they would've counted if they'd been successful.

--Gary


The permission and release forms are seldom mailed before the flight takes
place. They are most commonly administered by a ground crew if it is an
organized event or by the pilot if it is not an organized event. If the
form is not processed the pilot is not covered by the EAA provided liability
insurance.



 




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