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Old October 18th 05, 05:30 AM
N93332
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"Gene Whitt" wrote in message
nk.net...
I went to the AOPA site and tried for forty minutes to follow the
directions and finally gave up. I did find a place where I could
make a response to AOPA about how they made the method of
response so difficult and complex that were it flight instruction,
no one would ever learn to fly.


I agree. I think I figured out how to leave a message about the ADIZ on the
http://dms.dot.gov/submit/ site. My last comment I left was asking if anyone
actually reads all of these messages.

Or are they just going for a number of messages?

-Greg B.


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Old October 18th 05, 08:54 AM
Jay Beckman
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"N93332" wrote in message
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"Gene Whitt" wrote in message
nk.net...
I went to the AOPA site and tried for forty minutes to follow the
directions and finally gave up. I did find a place where I could
make a response to AOPA about how they made the method of
response so difficult and complex that were it flight instruction,
no one would ever learn to fly.


I agree. I think I figured out how to leave a message about the ADIZ on
the http://dms.dot.gov/submit/ site. My last comment I left was asking if
anyone actually reads all of these messages.

Or are they just going for a number of messages?

-Greg B.



Don't recall offhand if it was K Marx or V Lennin who, when asked why the
Soviet Military had tens of thousands of obsolete weapons in storage,
remarked:

"Because quantity has a quality of it's own..."

I think that if the powers that be see a significant volume of comments
opposing the proposed rule, they're gonna probably (I hope) notice.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ


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Old October 18th 05, 01:04 PM
Dan Luke
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"Jay Beckman" wrote:

Don't recall offhand if it was K Marx or V Lennin who, when asked why
the Soviet Military had tens of thousands of obsolete weapons in
storage, remarked:

"Because quantity has a quality of it's own..."


Stalin said that in WWII. Karl Marx was dead long before there was a
Soviet Union.

I think that if the powers that be see a significant volume of
comments opposing the proposed rule, they're gonna probably (I hope)
notice.


Maybe. The bureaucrats have become so timid after 9/11, though, that I
doubt they'll take even the slightest risk, real or perceived, WRT
protecting Washington against an attack.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


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Old October 18th 05, 02:15 PM
Jay Honeck
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Maybe. The bureaucrats have become so timid after 9/11, though, that I
doubt they'll take even the slightest risk, real or perceived, WRT
protecting Washington against an attack.


That's funny -- I was just thinking how the danged bureaucrats had become so
*bold* since 9/11.

It's the populace that has become timid, in the face of the bloody
bureaucrats, in virtually all aspects of public life.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old October 18th 05, 04:25 PM
Cecil Chapman
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That's funny -- I was just thinking how the danged bureaucrats had become
so *bold* since 9/11.


While you seem to be a very good person, unfortunately it's individuals like
you, with your blind 'yes I will follow' attitude who can so easily be led
down a path that are the greatest threat to our country. Remember that it's
'government by and FOR the people',,, not the other way around.

I can only say one thing in response to your comment. Historically, there
have been governments that have used fear to take an otherwise intelligent
populace into regimes of more restriction and strengthening of an
authoritarian, centralist government. One only need to look at the history
of the last 100 years to find numerous examples. Anyone who would turn
their eye to such examples is either a fool of the most tragic sort or if it
be ignorance of the latter; the effects are just as tragic. Anyone who
truly loves this country (and not just 'say the words') and all that it
stands for looks at some of the provisions of the "Patriot" Act, for example
and rightfully shudders with fear and revulsion.

To quote old Ben F.: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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Cecil E. Chapman
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
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Old October 18th 05, 05:01 PM
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Mail your responses.. Letters carry vastly more weight than emails...
Emails will be counted, they won't be read past the opening sentence...
Every letter will separately opened and read... I put 6 letters into
the mail today on the ADIZ...

denny

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Old October 18th 05, 06:10 PM
Cecil Chapman
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You know, Denny,,,, I wonder about that. I've heard 'jokes' (don't know if
they are true grin) that politicians will weigh the mailbags on various
issues and devote attention to the one with the most letters/weight.....
LOL!!!!

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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman
CP-ASEL-IA

Student - C.F.I.

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mail your responses.. Letters carry vastly more weight than emails...
Emails will be counted, they won't be read past the opening sentence...
Every letter will separately opened and read... I put 6 letters into
the mail today on the ADIZ...

denny



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Old October 19th 05, 12:33 AM
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Denny wrote:
Mail your responses.. Letters carry vastly more weight than emails...
Emails will be counted, they won't be read past the opening sentence...
Every letter will separately opened and read... I put 6 letters into
the mail today on the ADIZ...




I'm not so sure. I usually write an actual letter to my senators and the last
three responses were so generic I was unable to decypher what issue to which
they were responding. Since I write on a multitude of issues, it might be
helpful if they'd give a guy a hint.

Snailmail is no guarantee it's read any more carefully than email.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE


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Old October 19th 05, 03:51 PM
Jay Honeck
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That's funny -- I was just thinking how the danged bureaucrats had become
so *bold* since 9/11.


While you seem to be a very good person, unfortunately it's individuals
like you, with your blind 'yes I will follow' attitude who can so easily
be led down a path that are the greatest threat to our country. Remember
that it's 'government by and FOR the people',,, not the other way around.


Uh, Cecil, I believe you have misinterpreted my comment.

That was NOT meant to be a complimentary view of what our bureaucrats have
done. In fact, I'm appalled at the way our government is run primarily by
the bureaucrats, with the politicians doing little but trying to wag the
dog.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old October 21st 05, 04:24 AM
Cecil Chapman
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Uh, Cecil, I believe you have misinterpreted my comment.

Well okay,,,, then I apologize for the 'obscenity' I screamed when I saw
your post wink,,,, I said you were probably a helicopter pilot
masquerading as an fixed wing pilot.... I feel so ashamed,,, used the 'H'
word,,,, I feel dirty now......

:0(...... GRIN ;0)

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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman
CP-ASEL-IA

Student - C.F.I.

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -


 




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