Damaged aircraft - should I pay?

"Hilton" wrote in message
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Hi,

Right now (1pm West Coast time) on cnn.com, there is a picture of numerous
overturned planes. Presumably insurance pays for this and since I pay for
insurance, should I feel a bit bummed that these owners didn't fly their
planes to safety and help lower my insurance costs? Taking it to the
other extreme, perhaps some owners wanted to upgrade from a 172 to a 182
(for example) and... Sorry, I just don't get it.

Thanks,

Hilton



Remember, those folks had to prioritize thinks in there life. Maybe the
plane didn't make the cut.

A plane is just like any other investment. Although if I owned one, I
think it would be my most beloved material possession and would work
hard to protect it.

But, you often have to decide . . . getting the family to higher ground
or protecting the property. Then you get to decide which piece of
property . . . the house that everyone lives in . . . or the plane . .
.. or the boat . . . or . . . (whatever). Sometimes the
family/property question is in the form of an "either or" question,
not both.

If you fly out, how do you get back to take care of the family?
Airlines will typically cancel service 24 or more hours before the
storm's arrival. The dead time of driving back from any appreciable
distance is critical time wasted.

Finally, you never can be sure if by moving you are not going from bad
to worse. I have friends in South Florida who didn't leave when
Andrew approached. They could go North or South (though not too far).
When I asked (in quite colorful language) why they didn't bug out,
they replied there was uncertainty where exactly the storm would
strike, forecast information was confusing, and they didn't know
until it was too late which way to run. Even with days of warning, a
lot of what you have to do is very last minute.

Finally it has always been about all of us paying for choices that
other pilots make. I would much rather help pay for this type of
settlement, then for the pilot who ran out of gas on a clear day
because he or she decided to stretch things too far.

"John" wrote

Finally, you never can be sure if by moving you are not going from bad
to worse. I have friends in South Florida who didn't leave when
Andrew approached. They could go North or South (though not too far).
When I asked (in quite colorful language) why they didn't bug out,
they replied there was uncertainty where exactly the storm would
strike, forecast information was confusing, and they didn't know
until it was too late which way to run.

You board up the house, move the stuff in it onto the top of cabinets, or
boards on top of ladders; you get the picture. one person takes the car and
bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved. You wait with the
plane, and the others that want to go with you until the track is pretty
certain, then bug out in the plane. You beat all of the last minute freeway
traffic that way, also.

Right, life and family is most important. If I am ever in similar
situations, I'll sure make every attempt to make it out with the plane.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote his 1st response:

Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to
protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from.

I don't buy it. You would only have to move the plane 60 miles or so.
There is time in there to move "that" major investment, also.


Morgans responds the second time:

"John" wrote

Finally, you never can be sure if by moving you are not going from bad
to worse. I have friends in South Florida who didn't leave when
Andrew approached. They could go North or South (though not too far).
When I asked (in quite colorful language) why they didn't bug out,
they replied there was uncertainty where exactly the storm would
strike, forecast information was confusing, and they didn't know
until it was too late which way to run.

You board up the house, move the stuff in it onto the top of cabinets, or
boards on top of ladders; you get the picture. one person takes the car
and
bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved. You wait with the
plane, and the others that want to go with you until the track is pretty
certain, then bug out in the plane. You beat all of the last minute
freeway
traffic that way, also.

Right, life and family is most important. If I am ever in similar
situations, I'll sure make every attempt to make it out with the plane.
--
Jim in NC


Ok. This guy is just insensitive or just a moron. Possibly both. Almost
certainly he has never been faced with the situations described. Or perhaps
he (she?) is a super human. Or perhaps s/he just thinks so. Either way, into
the ignore file goes he. or her. whatever.

Harvey
written by generator light after Wilma.

Ok. This guy is just insensitive or just a moron. Possibly both. Almost
certainly he has never been faced with the situations described. Or
perhaps he (she?) is a super human. Or perhaps s/he just thinks so. Either
way, into the ignore file goes he. or her. whatever.

You killfile a guy -- on Usenet -- for being "insensitive"?

You must have one heckuva big killfile!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Harvey" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote his 1st response:

Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to
protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from.

I don't buy it. You would only have to move the plane 60 miles or so.
There is time in there to move "that" major investment, also.


60 miles doesn't move the plane out of the 12 hr margin of error.

one person takes the car and bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved.

I wouldn't let my wife bug out on her own. You never know what could
happen. She could get stuck in Texas type traffic, end up having to
sleep in the car on the freeway, etc. I'm not letting her do that just
to save the damn airplane.
-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
one person takes the car and bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved.

I wouldn't let my wife bug out on her own. You never know what could
happen. She could get stuck in Texas type traffic, end up having to
sleep in the car on the freeway, etc. I'm not letting her do that just
to save the damn airplane.

How about taking the airplane with your wife? Car's insured too, no? Let
that sucker sit without the battery in it. You can get farther faster
with less hassle and surround yourself with people who are not refugees.
Cars are just a commodity, wherever else you go in the USA.

Five or six hundred miles in the right direction and you are in a
different, carefree world. Why not sip a little wine on a sunny veranda,
while contemplating with detachment all the work the poor insurance
adjusters are about to undertake on your behalf?


Jack

Correct!,
Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from. Now
I have the plywood, I spend another 2 days or even more getting it all up
around the house ( oh yes did I mention my job still requires that I be at
work ?) Then you have all the get the family things together time. Now you
are in fact running out of time to "get gone". Do you drive a car and your
wife take hers as well...if you can save them you both have your way to work
when you get back. Do you put the entire family on a plane ( which may or
may not even be able to carry your whole family).
OH NO, someone shouts almost to late! We almost forgot about Spot the
mangy mutt! Well that settles it, no room for the dog in the plane, we need
our cars. We have a Uhaul rented with some of our stuff in it just in case.
So now even the beloved family boat has to stay put as well. I sure wish I
could have got the plane out of here but MAN, just did not have time trying
to get my home and family together.
I would guess that scenario happens alot during those times. I love
airplanes..but my family comes number 1. I think that's how most folks would
feel about it.

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

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"Hilton" wrote in message
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Hi,

Right now (1pm West Coast time) on cnn.com, there is a picture of
numerous overturned planes. Presumably insurance pays for this and since
I pay for insurance, should I feel a bit bummed that these owners didn't
fly their planes to safety and help lower my insurance costs? Taking it
to the other extreme, perhaps some owners wanted to upgrade from a 172 to
a 182 (for example) and... Sorry, I just don't get it.

Thanks,

Hilton



Remember, those folks had to prioritize thinks in there life. Maybe the
plane didn't make the cut.

"W P Dixon" wrote

Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to
protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from.

I don't buy it. You would only have to move the plane 60 miles or so.
There is time in there to move "that" major investment, also.
--
Jim in NC