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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.



I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Then during his talk he started getting very political, and began
saying things like the British did the right thing by blowing that
guy's head off in the subway station and we should handle them that
way. This was AFTER it had been determined the poor guy had nothing
to do with terrorism. It was an embarassing moment more than
anything. I just felt kinda sad and embarassed, even though I do
actually agree with the sentiment.

My daughter took pictures of him, but complained that he showed the
video for such a long time. I could tell she wasn't quite as
impressed as she expected to be.

Bottom line, I was reminded of Hollywood celebrities who get out of
touch with the real world, begin to use the attention they have to
create a political platform, and forget what the fans are really there
to see.

Rutan on the other hand...quirky but a hell of a guy.

Bill Strahan
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Bill wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.


Matt

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:

Bill wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.

I have a friend who gave instrument proficiency checks to both Yeager
and Hoover (and flew F-100s with Gabreski). You should hear some of the
tales!

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:


Bill wrote:


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:



Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.


I have a friend who gave instrument proficiency checks to both Yeager
and Hoover (and flew F-100s with Gabreski). You should hear some of the
tales!

I'd love to. Care to share any?

Matt

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:


Bill wrote:


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:



Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is
his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.


I have a friend who gave instrument proficiency checks to both Yeager
and Hoover (and flew F-100s with Gabreski). You should hear some of the
tales!

I'd love to. Care to share any?

Matt

He didn't like Gabreski and considered both Hoover and Yeager to be
marginal on the gages.

Another friend's father was a close friend of Yeager and has some
uncomplimentary stories about Chuck, too.

He didn't like Gabreski and considered both Hoover and Yeager to be
marginal on the gages.

I wonder if that's not uncommon? Being a fighter ace and flying on the
gauges are totally different skills.

In fact, now that I ponder it, being the aggressive, unpredictable,
sharp-eyed fighter ace is almost diametrically opposed to the image of a
skillful, competent IFR pilot.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

I wonder if that's not uncommon? Being a fighter ace and flying on the
gauges are totally different skills.

Flying escort fighters from Britain during WWII required long periods of
instrument work in a marginally stable platform on a regular basis.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

Jay Honeck wrote:
He didn't like Gabreski and considered both Hoover and Yeager to be
marginal on the gages.


I wonder if that's not uncommon? Being a fighter ace and flying on the
gauges are totally different skills.

In fact, now that I ponder it, being the aggressive, unpredictable,
sharp-eyed fighter ace is almost diametrically opposed to the image of a
skillful, competent IFR pilot.

Exactly. The same goes for the myth that getting an instrument rating
makes you a better pilot. It makes you a better instrument pilot. It
makes you a worse VFR pilot.

Matt Whiting wrote:
If I could win a day with either one, the choice would be a
no-brainer.

How many of those are there? Yawn and Zzzoom are the only 2 that come to
mind. Well Yawn has half a one so guess he doesn't count...