Lost comms after radar vector

"John R Weiss" wrote in message news:OpWOb.100956$xy6.181890@attbi_s02...


Squawk 7700 briefly (15 seconds?) to get the attention of ATC, and to give
some notice of your intention to exercise your PIC emergency authority to "bend"
the regulations.

Not necessary. If squawking anything is working, 7600 will get their attention just
find. You don't need to give them any such notification.


Fly the approach, land, clear the runway, taxi to the FBO, call the tower.

If there's a tower, don't forget to look for the light.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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If there's a tower, don't forget to look for the light.


What will you do if there's no light?

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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If there's a tower, don't forget to look for the light.


What will you do if there's no light?



Take off, hold at the FAF for an hour, land and check for the light
again. Repeat until you run out of fuel.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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| What will you do if there's no light?

If you're in IMC, a light is going to be a bit hard to see anyway (assuming
the tower knows where to point it). If you can see the light far enough in
advance to be meaningful, wouldn't you be in VMC - or close enough to it for
government work?

"Randy at Home" wrote in
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If you're in IMC, a light is going to be a bit hard to see anyway
(assuming
the tower knows where to point it).


It may be a bit hard to see the runway as well. But what will you do if you
don't see a light?



If you can see the light far enough in advance to be meaningful,
wouldn't you be in VMC - or close enough to it for government work?


Not necessarily. But what will you do if you don't see a light?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

It may be a bit hard to see the runway as well. But what will you do if you
don't see a light?

After shooting a NORDO approach in IMC, the only lights I'm looking for
are the approach lights and the runway lights. And maybe the one on the
back of the jeep illuminating the "Follow Me" sign.

If the guy in the tower wants to get his jollies shining a green light
at me, that's his problem, not mine.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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After shooting a NORDO approach in IMC, the only lights I'm looking for
are the approach lights and the runway lights. And maybe the one on the
back of the jeep illuminating the "Follow Me" sign.

If the guy in the tower wants to get his jollies shining a green light
at me, that's his problem, not mine.


Easy, big fella. I'm not the one that said, "If there's a tower, don't
forget to look for the light." That was Ron Natalie. I wouldn't look for
landing clearance either. I was just curious what he would do if he saw no
light.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote...

I wouldn't look for
landing clearance either. I was just curious what he would do if he saw no
light.

I'd be looking for red lights... Green ones are good; but no lights means
everyone's asleep, gone home, or not concerned. Red ones mean trouble...

"Ron Natalie" wrote...

Squawk 7700 briefly (15 seconds?) to get the attention of ATC, and to
give
some notice of your intention to exercise your PIC emergency authority to
"bend"
the regulations.

Not necessary. If squawking anything is working, 7600 will get their
attention just
find. You don't need to give them any such notification.

I don't know the current state of the art of ATC radars. However, the 7700/7600
switch was a part of the Navy Instrument Flight Manual as late as 1994. The
rationale was that not all ATC radars had the same level of alerting for 7600
squawks as 7700, and/or that the alert might be manually disabled.

If all ATC radars now have the same level of alert for a 7600 squawk, then 7600
only makes sense.

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news:_LWOb.84380$Rc4.305921@attbi_s54...
"Ron Natalie" wrote...

Squawk 7700 briefly (15 seconds?) to get the attention of ATC, and
to
give
some notice of your intention to exercise your PIC emergency authority
to
"bend"
the regulations.

Not necessary. If squawking anything is working, 7600 will get their
attention just
find. You don't need to give them any such notification.

I don't know the current state of the art of ATC radars. However, the
7700/7600
switch was a part of the Navy Instrument Flight Manual as late as 1994.
The
rationale was that not all ATC radars had the same level of alerting for
7600
squawks as 7700, and/or that the alert might be manually disabled.

If all ATC radars now have the same level of alert for a 7600 squawk, then
7600
only makes sense.

7700 for one minute, followed by 7600, is one of the "wrong" answers in two
questions on the IFR knowledge test, and I always assumed that was because
it is a known incorrect or obsolete practice. However, one of the questions
specifies "you do not exercise emergency authority", so isn't exactly
appropriate to the specified scenario.

-- David Brooks