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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:33:51 GMT, john smith wrote:

Does playing/having played sports increase ones situational awareness
while flying?
(Just one of those things I think of while sitting in the lifeguard
chair protecting and empty pool.)

I would think that any activity that promotes multitasking and
siutational awareness adds to the basic skills to make a good pilot.
However, in this case, the benefit is probably quite small.

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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:33:51 GMT, john smith wrote:

Does playing/having played sports increase ones situational awareness
while flying?
(Just one of those things I think of while sitting in the lifeguard
chair protecting and empty pool.)

I would think that any activity that promotes multitasking and
siutational awareness adds to the basic skills to make a good pilot.
However, in this case, the benefit is probably quite small.

How about riding a motorcycle for 18 years in LA and Orange
counties? There's times I get where I'm going and have to
sit for a few minutes to let the adrenaline fade.

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How about riding a motorcycle for 18 years in LA and Orange
counties? There's times I get where I'm going and have to
sit for a few minutes to let the adrenaline fade.

18 years? Man, you really are a glutton for punishment!

I've ridden in LA traffic twice. Don't want to do it again any time soon.
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:aqi9f.289100$084.78299
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How about riding a motorcycle for 18 years in LA and Orange
counties? There's times I get where I'm going and have to
sit for a few minutes to let the adrenaline fade.

18 years? Man, you really are a glutton for punishment!

I've ridden in LA traffic twice. Don't want to do it again any time soon.

Ok...minus one year that was in Washington state back in 91-92.

I learned to ride here and it's pretty much all I know. I have
a feeling if you can live for 18 years on a motorcycle in this
traffic (where I've actually had people TRY to run me off the
freeway because 80 wasn't fast enough*) then I must be doing
something right. As an aside, I've learned that if it's a choice
between my safety and obeying the law, the law get's thrown out
the window damned fast. Fortunately I've never had to argue that
in court.

*Funny how it's not considered assualt with a deadly weapon by
law enforcement. If you do the same to a cop it's assault. What
makes it happening to me any different? Just making a point, I'm
not expecting a discussion on it.

Back to lurking.....

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I learned to ride here and it's pretty much all I know. I have
a feeling if you can live for 18 years on a motorcycle in this
traffic (where I've actually had people TRY to run me off the
freeway because 80 wasn't fast enough*) then I must be doing
something right.

LA is the only place I've ever ridden where (a) I was actually spat at, and
(b) people actively tried to cut me off.

And I was riding a Gold Wing, with Mary on the back. Not exactly the
"outlaw" biker you might expect would raise people's ire.

A strange bunch, out there in La-la land...
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"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news0Y9f.532553$xm3.374203@attbi_s21:

I learned to ride here and it's pretty much all I know. I have
a feeling if you can live for 18 years on a motorcycle in this
traffic (where I've actually had people TRY to run me off the
freeway because 80 wasn't fast enough*) then I must be doing
something right.

LA is the only place I've ever ridden where (a) I was actually spat at,
and (b) people actively tried to cut me off.

Been there....done that....

I used to have lots of problems but I changed my riding style several
years ago and now it's rare for me to have 'issues'. There's several
ways I've found to sum it up,

I ride like everyone is trying to kill me.

I'm allergic to cars.

As a matter of fact, I DO own the road.

I pretend I'm in an F-16 flying low and out of ammo. All I
can do is outrun the enemy.

I'm sure I **** a few people off as I do what I do, but I'm only
doing what I've found is necessary to stay alive. I don't feel
as immortal as I did when I first started riding as a teenager.

I also don't take kindly to people telling me that what I do is
wrong or part of the problem, etc... When they've been riding
for as long as I have and been through what I've been through on
the road, then we'll talk.


And I was riding a Gold Wing, with Mary on the back. Not exactly the
"outlaw" biker you might expect would raise people's ire.

hahahaha....maybe that's been helping me a bit!

I'm not 'outlaw'...but I would not get looked at funny if I walked
into a 'biker bar' (not that I drink). I have the Harley, I have the
leathers, I have the long hair and (short) beard...if your newsreader
can read X-Face...But the point is I'm not one of those new fangled
yuppy "biker for the weekend" types.

Most people seem to find me quite puzzling. A long haired Harley
riding loud music listening (and playing)....amateur scientist.


A strange bunch, out there in La-la land...

You don't have to tell me!!! I am actually shocked, literally, when
someone goes out of their way to not be an ass. It's sad really, but
I think I've come to expect all humans to be that way. Perhaps I
need to get out of this area....I keep buying lottery tickets...

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Jay Honeck opined

I learned to ride here and it's pretty much all I know. I have
a feeling if you can live for 18 years on a motorcycle in this
traffic (where I've actually had people TRY to run me off the
freeway because 80 wasn't fast enough*) then I must be doing
something right.

LA is the only place I've ever ridden where (a) I was actually spat at, and
(b) people actively tried to cut me off.

And I was riding a Gold Wing, with Mary on the back. Not exactly the
"outlaw" biker you might expect would raise people's ire.

Well, no wonder. The rules are inverted out there. For respect you need to be an
outlaw biker. Or maybe a cafe racer.

A strange bunch, out there in La-la land...

Strange indeed.


-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

Jay Honeck wrote:

LA is the only place I've ever ridden where (a) I was actually spat at, and
(b) people actively tried to cut me off.

And I was riding a Gold Wing, with Mary on the back. Not exactly the
"outlaw" biker you might expect would raise people's ire.

A strange bunch, out there in La-la land...

I lived in Long Beach for a couple of years. Although I got my drivers
license in Ohio when I was in High School, I learned how to drive in LA
after I graduated. I didn't ride a motorcycle back then, but it looked
pretty insane. I think the drivers out there get mad at bikers because
they're jealous: CA allows (or at least did back then) bikers to drive
between lanes so they're less confined by traffic. But when the traffic
is bumper to bumper at 80Mph and you see a biker whiz by at 150 between
cars... Well, Darwin will catch up eventually.


-m
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"I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead."

And the funny part,
The guys splitting lanes would have flip flops , shorts and rarely more
than a tee-shirt, if that, on. But they would have a 400 buck Shoei helmet
on!!!! At least the CHP could identify the head rolling around on the 91 !!!


Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech


"Mark T. Dame" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

LA is the only place I've ever ridden where (a) I was actually spat at,
and (b) people actively tried to cut me off.

And I was riding a Gold Wing, with Mary on the back. Not exactly the
"outlaw" biker you might expect would raise people's ire.

A strange bunch, out there in La-la land...

I lived in Long Beach for a couple of years. Although I got my drivers
license in Ohio when I was in High School, I learned how to drive in LA
after I graduated. I didn't ride a motorcycle back then, but it looked
pretty insane. I think the drivers out there get mad at bikers because
they're jealous: CA allows (or at least did back then) bikers to drive
between lanes so they're less confined by traffic. But when the traffic
is bumper to bumper at 80Mph and you see a biker whiz by at 150 between
cars... Well, Darwin will catch up eventually.


-m
--
## Mark T. Dame
## VP, Product Development
## MFM Software, Inc. (http://www.mfm.com/)
"I used up all my sick days, so I'm calling in dead."

"Mark T. Dame" wrote in :

Jay Honeck wrote:

LA is the only place I've ever ridden where (a) I was actually spat at,
and (b) people actively tried to cut me off.

And I was riding a Gold Wing, with Mary on the back. Not exactly the
"outlaw" biker you might expect would raise people's ire.

A strange bunch, out there in La-la land...

I lived in Long Beach for a couple of years. Although I got my drivers
license in Ohio when I was in High School, I learned how to drive in LA
after I graduated. I didn't ride a motorcycle back then, but it looked
pretty insane. I think the drivers out there get mad at bikers because
they're jealous: CA allows (or at least did back then) bikers to drive
between lanes so they're less confined by traffic. But when the traffic
is bumper to bumper at 80Mph and you see a biker whiz by at 150 between
cars... Well, Darwin will catch up eventually.


-m

Back when I was learning to ride in the late 80's, the law was
unclear about 'white lining'. The state itself didn't prohibit
it but some cities did. It was hard to know where it was legal
so the advise was not to do it. Well, after years of riding I
learned it actually has benefits if done with care.

My goal on surface streets is to be at the front of the traffic
at the red light. When it turns green, take off fast, and catch
up to the next block of traffic stopped at the next red light.
That way the only one moving is me.

My rule on the freeway is if I can hold 40-45 then I'll stay put
in traffic, otherwise I whiteline, and then not real fast. I try
to stay only about 10-15 faster than traffic. If something happens
I only have to loose 10-15 mph to avoid a collision.

But the above for me are general guidelines. The situation is
always fluid and I take the situation as it comes to me. Sometimes
I find myself near a driver or two that I feel unsafe being near,
like they're yacking on the cell phone and weaving back and forth,
and I'll take whatever measures to get away from them. Most
commonly it's to blow by them as fast as reasonably possible.

I've found from experience that speed on a motorcycle is your
friend. It is far easier to speed ahead of potentially dangerous
situations than it is to try stay behind them. I find that going
the speed of or slower than traffic only invites tailgater's and
people cutting you off.

I've also heard from multiple sources that motorcycle officers
are advised to whiteline at traffic lights as it's safer than
getting crushed between the stopped car in front and the car
behind that doesn't stop. It happens. People don't see what they
don't look for, and they don't look for motorcycles. I take active
control of my situation in traffic and if I don't like it, I do
something about it. I'm not a passive driver.

BTW, I don't recommend the above unless you are an experienced
rider. It works for me but may not work for someone else. I was
riding for 10 years before I changed to the above aggressive
tactics, and only because I was getting tired of nearly being hit
multple times a day. Now it's a rarity. In some instances I
actually feel safer on the bike than in a car because I have more
options for taking control of the situation.

But the last I heard was that 'lane sharing' was legal but if there
is an accident, it will likely be considered your fault.

BTW, in case anyone is curious...one accident (infamous opposing
left turn, no injuries) and one ticket (which in hindsight I could
have talked myself out of, I suspected the officer did not radar
me like he claimed, and I didn't ask to see the reading on the gun,
but I didn't know at the time that if they radar you and they can't
show you the reading, they can't give you a ticket)

Anyway...back to airplanes....

Brian
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