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Old October 31st 05, 03:19 PM
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I should clarify a bit. Currently, we live in different cities, so I won't have access to the airplane for a year or so. That's why I am trying to figure out "the path".

From that standpoint, I guess the MEL rating would be good and then build time in the local Cougar or Travelair. Seems like the name of the game will be "multi" hours. There are just not hardly any well equiped twins in the area. They are all run-out trainers.

Thanks,

RC
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Old October 31st 05, 04:36 PM
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I should clarify a bit. Currently, we live in different cities, so I
won't have access to the airplane for a year or so. That's why I am
trying to figure out "the path".


For the money you'd spend getting competent and insurable in a twin,
maybe "the path" is to take that money and buy your own single.

Jose
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Old November 1st 05, 04:09 AM
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Jose,

I thinking you might be right. A thought that came up today was to find a good, well cared for 35 or 33 Bonanza with some sort of relatively modern avionics and find a partner in it. Nothing too fancy, just a good servicable machine with a full IFR panel in it and some sort of IFR cert. GPS.

Like you say, the numbers might be advantageous that route. I have been spending $2,500 to $3,000 a month working on the instrument rating and building time. Of course, that included instructor time, and I was flying two and three days a week.

Also seems that working on a Commercial would help the insurance too.

Still brainstorming, but you fellows have some good ideas. That's why I asked in the first place!!

Thanks,

RC
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Old November 1st 05, 04:16 AM
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super90 wrote:
Also seems that working on a Commercial would help the insurance too.


well, I got a discount with my renter insurance when I got
the instrument rating, but the commercial certificate didn't
make a difference in their opinion...

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Old November 1st 05, 10:58 AM
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Sylvain wrote:
super90 wrote:
Also seems that working on a Commercial would help the insurance too.


well, I got a discount with my renter insurance when I got
the instrument rating, but the commercial certificate didn't
make a difference in their opinion...



Passengers like it though...



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Old November 1st 05, 01:46 PM
Jim Burns
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When insuring our Aztec, we found very few underwriters (3 if I remember
right) willing to insure "transition twin pilots" i.e. transitioning into
a twin. Our lowest time/rated partner (the one the insurance is primarily
based on) had less than 500 hours, is PPL and IR. We all did our multi
training just before purchasing the Aztec, so we all had very low twin time.
Myself and one other partner are Commercial and IR, I'm a CFII and he's also
ASES. Only our PPL partner was required to fly 25 hours with an MEI before
solo in the Aztec. We were told (right or wrong) that our Commercial certs
and other ratings helped our cause. Our broker told us more underwriters
were interested and we got more quotes because of it.

Maybe he was just blowing smoke up our butt, but if it's true, then this is
what I would concentrate on:

Get your commercial certificate and build your time above 500 hours, then
get your multi rating. If you get your multi first and you save your money
for hours of twin flying, the hour building will slow dramatically. Your
best investment will be to build your time in a single, it will save you
some serious insurance premium bucks when you move into the Baron.

YMMV
Jim


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Old November 1st 05, 02:46 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"super90" wrote in message
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Jose,

I thinking you might be right. A thought that came up today was to
find a good, well cared for 35 or 33 Bonanza with some sort of
relatively modern avionics and find a partner in it. Nothing too
fancy, just a good servicable machine with a full IFR panel in it and
some sort of IFR cert. GPS.

Like you say, the numbers might be advantageous that route. I have
been spending $2,500 to $3,000 a month working on the instrument rating
and building time. Of course, that included instructor time, and I was
flying two and three days a week.

Also seems that working on a Commercial would help the insurance too.

Still brainstorming, but you fellows have some good ideas. That's why
I asked in the first place!!

Thanks,

RC


--
super90


As others have said, a commercial certificate won't affect your insurance
rates but it might make it possible to get quotes from companies that won't
quote a private pilot in a particular airplane. As the airplanes get more
sofisticated, insurance companies start to expect that you will have more
advanced ratings.

Mike
MU-2


 




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