New FSS Policy

This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can
just here the phone call.

MY WIFE: Hello
FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet?
MY WIFE: No
FSS: OK Thanks

My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing
into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule.



"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or
BEFORE your ETA...

Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight
plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk
says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for
0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan with
a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off
(probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual so
my buddy could see his house.)

So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no idea
why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment to
ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their
policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to
call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...)

Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at
1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there) my
call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm on
the ground.

So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ
(Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!)

So now you know--give them your cell phone number!


"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:ly9af.2056$5N1.1831@dukeread08...
This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can
just here the phone call.

MY WIFE: Hello
FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet?
MY WIFE: No
FSS: OK Thanks

My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing
into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule.



"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
newsU8af.564$bo.388@fed1read01...
FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or
BEFORE your ETA...

Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight
plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk
says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for
0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan
with
a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off
(probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual
so
my buddy could see his house.)

So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no
idea
why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment
to
ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their
policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to
call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...)

Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at
1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there)
my
call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm
on
the ground.

So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ
(Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!)

and with the cell phone number... I'm still in the air and will not hear it
ring.. and then I'm talking to tower anyway.. so after I'm tied down and
parked.. I'll dig out the phone turn it on and see the "missed call" notice,
maybe they left a message, maybe not.

BT

"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!


"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:ly9af.2056$5N1.1831@dukeread08...
This is not a good thing. If the contact number is your home number I can
just here the phone call.

MY WIFE: Hello
FSS: Yes has Mr Giacona arrived yet?
MY WIFE: No
FSS: OK Thanks

My wife then begins to think I've crashed & burned, meanwhile I'm taxiing
into my hanger 5 minutes behind schedule.



"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
newsU8af.564$bo.388@fed1read01...
FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at
or
BEFORE your ETA...

Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight
plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk
says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for
0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan
with
a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off
(probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual
so
my buddy could see his house.)

So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no
idea
why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment
to
ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now
their
policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to
call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...)

Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at
1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there)
my
call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm
on
the ground.

So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ
(Now adding 10 minutes to all ETE calculations!)

"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message ...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!



So who has a cell phone?

..Blueskies. wrote:

So who has a cell phone?

Thank you! I was beginning to think I'm the only one without one.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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.Blueskies. wrote:

So who has a cell phone?

Thank you! I was beginning to think I'm the only one without one.

Nope. You're not. There might only be three of us, but the number is
definitely greater than one.

".Blueskies." writes:


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message ...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!

So who has a cell phone?

....and how would putting your cell phone number on a flight
plan help in the event that the flight plan actually has to
be used for its intended purpose?

Can it just be left blank?

--kyler

Well, I was responding to the post about the fear of having the wife getting
histerical because of the call from the FSS. I am assuming (maybe
incorrectly) that the FSS will attempt to call you cell number more than
once if they don't get you. After all, that's the only phone number on the
flight plan.

A freind of mine once forgot to close his VFR flight plan landing at an
uncontrolled field with only a payphone for "facilities." The FSS wound up
calling the town's public works maintenance department to verify he was on
the ground. Leaving his cell number would have probably averted that
situation.

Marco Leon

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
...
".Blueskies." writes:


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!

So who has a cell phone?

...and how would putting your cell phone number on a flight
plan help in the event that the flight plan actually has to
be used for its intended purpose?

Can it just be left blank?

--kyler



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But if they are just going to call the number several times until I answer
or close my flight plan they are wasting their time.

I wan them to wait a reasonable amount of time after my ETA and then call
whatever number I give them and if I or someone that knows I landed doesn't
answer I want them to call out the SAR.


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
...
Well, I was responding to the post about the fear of having the wife
getting
histerical because of the call from the FSS. I am assuming (maybe
incorrectly) that the FSS will attempt to call you cell number more than
once if they don't get you. After all, that's the only phone number on the
flight plan.

A freind of mine once forgot to close his VFR flight plan landing at an
uncontrolled field with only a payphone for "facilities." The FSS wound up
calling the town's public works maintenance department to verify he was on
the ground. Leaving his cell number would have probably averted that
situation.

Marco Leon

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
...
".Blueskies." writes:


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!

So who has a cell phone?

...and how would putting your cell phone number on a flight
plan help in the event that the flight plan actually has to
be used for its intended purpose?

Can it just be left blank?

--kyler



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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:43:27 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote:

But if they are just going to call the number several times until I answer
or close my flight plan they are wasting their time.

I wan them to wait a reasonable amount of time after my ETA and then call
whatever number I give them and if I or someone that knows I landed doesn't
answer I want them to call out the SAR.

I landed at Gainesville GA around midnight. Every thing was closed. A
car had been left for us. We signed in at a motel and I *tried* to
call FSS. The phones were out. So, I spent the next hour and a half
driving around until I finally found a phone that worked. That made
my call about 4 hours late.

FSS: Hello
Me: I'd like to close my flight plan. Sorry about being late, but I
couldn't find a phone that works around here.
FSS. No problem. You say you're late?
Me: yah, by about 4 hours.
FSS: Hmmm I guess you would call that a bit late. Thanks for calling
to close the flight plan.

Apparently different parts of the country place differing emphasis on
being late.

In all fairness this was also about 10 years ago.

OTOH we flew into BJC (Jefferson County, Boulder Colorado) snaking our
way around some really nasty stuff. Tornados, soft ball size hail
(which did a few million dollars worth of damage just to roofs).

We were a tad late due to the weather, but only by about 15 to 20
minutes. The guy at FSS really chewed me out for not calling to tell
them I'd be late.

Mountains at night, storms in the day, different responses from
different areas.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
...
Well, I was responding to the post about the fear of having the wife
getting
histerical because of the call from the FSS. I am assuming (maybe
incorrectly) that the FSS will attempt to call you cell number more than
once if they don't get you. After all, that's the only phone number on the
flight plan.

A freind of mine once forgot to close his VFR flight plan landing at an
uncontrolled field with only a payphone for "facilities." The FSS wound up
calling the town's public works maintenance department to verify he was on
the ground. Leaving his cell number would have probably averted that
situation.

Marco Leon

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
...
".Blueskies." writes:


"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
...
So now you know--give them your cell phone number!

So who has a cell phone?

...and how would putting your cell phone number on a flight
plan help in the event that the flight plan actually has to
be used for its intended purpose?

Can it just be left blank?

--kyler



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