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Yep,
You can get mighty darn toasty in leathers in the summer. I could only
manage them during the cooler months. Levi's never let me down though..slide
across Lakewood Blvd. one wet afternoon (blasted concrete roads!) Few
scratches on the Katana's cowling, but not on me
I hated when Pete Wilson made the helmet law out there. I think the
other protective clothing does as much to save your butt than the helmet
does.

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Skywise" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote in
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And the funny part,
The guys splitting lanes would have flip flops , shorts and rarely
more
than a tee-shirt, if that, on. But they would have a 400 buck Shoei
helmet on!!!! At least the CHP could identify the head rolling around on
the 91 !!!

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech
Snipola

Oh yeah...I get a laugh every time I see one those 'organ donors'.

It get's uncomfortable in the summer, so I'll shed the chaps and
if really bad, the gloves. My helmet's not fullfaced so that's not
too bad. I might not zip the jacket all the way up for ventilation.
But I'd rather have my skin should I go down on the pavement.

Brian
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"W P Dixon" wrote in
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Yep,
You can get mighty darn toasty in leathers in the summer. I could
only
manage them during the cooler months. Levi's never let me down
though..slide across Lakewood Blvd. one wet afternoon (blasted concrete
roads!) Few scratches on the Katana's cowling, but not on me
I hated when Pete Wilson made the helmet law out there. I think the
other protective clothing does as much to save your butt than the helmet
does.

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech
Snipola

I've always worn a helmet. Had no choice at first since I was still
a 'kid' when I started and Mom said so. But I got so used to it I
don't like to go without it. Before the law I tried riding without
it a few times and it's ok at lower speeds.

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise. I started to notice my ears ringing after riding and I
think it's caused by the wind noise. Then I noticed a slight bit of
tinnitus. I wear earplugs now. I can hear sirens still just fine.

I have mixed feelings on mandatory helmet laws, though. I understand
they don't do much good in direct head impacts above 35 mph or so,
but it's better than nothing, and I think people should wear them.
But then I'm wary of governments deciding things for you "for your
own good". Reeks of communism.

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I can agree with that! I always felt my vision was greatly reduced with the
full face,..and thus not very safe. Didn't make much sense to me to lose one
factor of safety that would affect others. If you don't see someone off to
your side and change lanes and hurt or kill someone versus not having the
thing on at all and the risk is more of "my own butt". Some folks like them
some don't, but we should be able to make up our own minds as adults.

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

But then I'm wary of governments deciding things for you "for your
own good". Reeks of communism.

Brian
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I've always worn a helmet.

Me, too. Been riding for 29 years, been "down" just once -- and the very
first part of my anatomy that hit the ground was my head. Didn't even have
time to put an arm up, or anything.

After that, I bought a really good full-faced helmet, and I never, EVER ride
without it. Without that helmet, I'd be a veggie right now.

You can get mighty darn toasty in leathers in the summer. I could
only
manage them during the cooler months.

Heh. We crossed the Mojave desert, at noon -- TWICE -- wearing leathers.
Mary was sitting on the back, spraying my back with water...

It was hell, but our bags were so full, we had no place to pack 'em. (I
eventually sat on the coat, which helped.)

Two days later, we were riding in Yellowstone -- in the snow...

Ah, to be young again....NOT!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote

After that, I bought a really good full-faced helmet, and I never, EVER
ride
without it. Without that helmet, I'd be a veggie right now.

And you can tell the difference, how? BFG ducking and running!
--
Jim in NC

Skywise wrote:

I've always worn a helmet.

Same here. For a few years, I had an old helmet in the garage with a bare spot
in the front where the paint had been rubbed off. Guess how that happened?

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise.

I'm blind without my glasses and, until recently, wore ones with wrap-around ear
pieces. I was never able to get a full face helmet on without removing my
glasses and was never able to get my glasses on once the helmet was on. On the
other hand, the wind around my glasses would concentrate on my eyes and blind
me. Standard helmet with face shield was the only way to go for me. Recently,
I've seen a full face model with a hinged chin guard. That might be the way to go.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:36:32 GMT, George Patterson
wrote:

Skywise wrote:

I've always worn a helmet.

Same here. For a few years, I had an old helmet in the garage with a bare spot
in the front where the paint had been rubbed off. Guess how that happened?

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise.

I'm blind without my glasses and, until recently, wore ones with wrap-around ear
pieces. I was never able to get a full face helmet on without removing my
glasses and was never able to get my glasses on once the helmet was on. On the
other hand, the wind around my glasses would concentrate on my eyes and blind
me. Standard helmet with face shield was the only way to go for me. Recently,
I've seen a full face model with a hinged chin guard. That might be the way to go.

I'm not sure my full-face Shoei cuts down on wind noise enough.

In the days before headsets, I used to fly with earplugs, which were a
great fatigue-reducer. The logic was that if anything I wanted to
hear was X dB louder than the engine noise without the plugs, it was X
dB louder with them in, and if it wasn't louder than the ambient
noise to start with, I wasn't going to hear it anyway.

So I figure it's the same way on a motorcycle, and I use earplugs
inside the helmet on long noisy rides.

Or I do now. When I had the '74 BMW with the full Vetta fairing, I
didn't have to worry about noise.

Don

I've got a bright orange full face helmet. I put it on then put on
the glasses. No problems. It may just be the model of the helmet
that doesn't work with your glasses.

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise.

I used to wear an open helmet, but that was behind a full windshield. Now,
riding a sport bike, I have a full face, but really, I don't think the wind
noise is much better with the full helmet with the plexi face shield. I
still wear ear plugs, if I am going over a few miles.


On the
other hand, the wind around my glasses would concentrate on my eyes and
blind
me. Standard helmet with face shield was the only way to go for me.

Really? I never had that problem, but that was with a windshield.

Recently,
I've seen a full face model with a hinged chin guard. That might be the
way to go.

Interesting. I wonder if it would stay in place when (if) you really need
it.
--
Jim in NC

I'm blind without my glasses and, until recently, wore ones with
wrap-around ear pieces. I was never able to get a full face helmet on
without removing my glasses and was never able to get my glasses on once
the helmet was on. On the other hand, the wind around my glasses would
concentrate on my eyes and blind me. Standard helmet with face shield was
the only way to go for me. Recently, I've seen a full face model with a
hinged chin guard. That might be the way to go.

Mary and I have been riding with hinged BMW helmets since the mid '80s, when
I was still a smoker. We paid something absolutely insane -- like, $300
apiece -- for them, (what's that, in today's money -- probably $700?), but
they have been VERY durable.

I finally replaced mine two years ago with a hinged full-face Shoei. It is
LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Beemers, with a much easier (yet more positive)
locking system, a better vent system, and it is MUCH lighter. I think it
cost about the same, but in today's money.

That Beemer helmet was like a Dave Clark headset -- extremely durable, but
uncomfortable after a few hours. The Shoei, by contrast, can be worn
indefinitely.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"