New FSS Policy

Jay Beckman wrote:



So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order...

You are complaining about this? You're a moron.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:



So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order...

You are complaining about this? You're a moron.


All I meant is that there is a new sheriff in town. (And I really don't
apprecieate the insult because the last thing I am is a moron....I can
assure you of that...)

But...

In all seriousness, tell me how you handle this knowing that FSS is going to
be "standing on the porch" waiting:

My home base is under the Phoenix Sky Harbor Class Bravo. To fly to
Prescott, Sedona or other points north, the usual drill is to take off and
get a little space to the south, contact FSS on the Phoenix RCO when clear
of the immediate home airport environs, then turn west to the usual
reporting point to request a transition of the Class Bravo from south to
north.

Now I've had instances where the Phoenix controlers are busy and I've had to
do a couple of 360s before I get a squawk and I'm cleared in. The rest is
fairly simple: Fly the assigned transition at the assigned altitidue, climb
when instructed/allowed and then contact ZAB center when handed off. Not a
big deal, but not really your run of the mill take off, turn immediately on
course and just proceed as planned.

Under this new scenario, I'm late before I've even started so I'm going to
have FBOs everywhere north of Phoenix telling me that FSS is looking for me?
Even if it's only a couple of minutes? Today I might have been all of one
minute over ETE coming home.

So should I now always request a momentary frequency change from center to
call FSS and amend my ETE / ETA or should I just pad my ETE right from the
start?

Or, should I just risk it and fly without filing a flight plan at all?

Please enlighten me...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

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"Newps" wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:



So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order...

You are complaining about this? You're a moron.


All I meant is that there is a new sheriff in town. (And I really don't
apprecieate the insult because the last thing I am is a moron....I can
assure you of that...)

But...

In all seriousness, tell me how you handle this knowing that FSS is going
to
be "standing on the porch" waiting:

My home base is under the Phoenix Sky Harbor Class Bravo. To fly to
Prescott, Sedona or other points north, the usual drill is to take off and
get a little space to the south, contact FSS on the Phoenix RCO when clear
of the immediate home airport environs, then turn west to the usual
reporting point to request a transition of the Class Bravo from south to
north.

Now I've had instances where the Phoenix controlers are busy and I've had
to
do a couple of 360s before I get a squawk and I'm cleared in. The rest is
fairly simple: Fly the assigned transition at the assigned altitidue,
climb
when instructed/allowed and then contact ZAB center when handed off. Not
a
big deal, but not really your run of the mill take off, turn immediately
on
course and just proceed as planned.

Under this new scenario, I'm late before I've even started so I'm going to
have FBOs everywhere north of Phoenix telling me that FSS is looking for
me?
Even if it's only a couple of minutes? Today I might have been all of one
minute over ETE coming home.

So should I now always request a momentary frequency change from center to
call FSS and amend my ETE / ETA or should I just pad my ETE right from the
start?

Or, should I just risk it and fly without filing a flight plan at all?

Any of the three options you presented will work.

Please enlighten me...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Please tell me you aren't idiot enough to not snip a hundred lines of
message for a insipid one line answer.

Jim



"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Any of the three options you presented will work.