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![]() "Jay Beckman" wrote in message news ![]() FSS has a new trick, calling the contact number on your flightplan at or BEFORE your ETA... Landed at Sedona this morning, called 800-WX-Brief to close VFR flight plan, walked into the terminal building and the guy behind the FBO desk says Prescott FSS just called looking for me. Huh!?!?! I filed for 0730MST departure with an ETE of 50 minutes. Opened the flight plan with a wheels up time of 0755MST and landed at 0850MST...five minutes off (probably because we stayed under the PHX Class Bravo longer than usual so my buddy could see his house.) So, I called Precott and the gentleman to whom I spoke said he had no idea why they called looking for me so quick. Excused himself for a moment to ask around, then came back on the line to explain that this is now their policy and they will be calling pilots instead of waiting for pilots to call them. They will be calling At or BEFORE your ETA (his words...) Same thing on the return trip. Filed for an ETE of 1H05M and landed at 1H06M ... as I'm on the phone with ABQ (phone system shunted me there) my call waiting beeps and it's Prescott calling me to check and see if I'm on the ground. So, welcome to the new Lockheed/Martin world order... Interesting way of doing things. here in the UK the way a VFR flight plan works is that the pilot nominates a responsible person (family member, FBO etc) to make the call if they are overdue rather than have the ATC make assumptions. The basis is that no news is good news. So the other week, coming back from France, there is no closing of the flight plan, my wife had an idea when I was due back and she had instructions to call the SAR if I had not checked in on time. As it was I called her on landing as I always do (even when flying in the US) and there was no need to bother those nice but very busy people at Heathrow. They especially don't have the time or capacity to take loads of calls from people saying I'm fine. |
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What about pilots who have no friends or family?
"Chris" wrote in : So the other week, coming back from France, there is no closing of the flight plan, my wife had an idea when I was due back and she had instructions to call the SAR if I had not checked in on time. As it was I called her on landing as I always do (even when flying in the US) and there was no need to bother those nice but very busy people at Heathrow. They especially don't have the time or capacity to take loads of calls from people saying I'm fine. |
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Judah wrote:
What about pilots who have no friends or family? Then who cares if you crash? :-) George Patterson Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor. It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him. |
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George Patterson wrote:
Judah wrote: What about pilots who have no friends or family? Then who cares if you crash? :-) My dog would. Ron Lee |
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My dog is already way over his limit on minutes.
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![]() "Judah" wrote in message . .. What about pilots who have no friends or family? such a sad git ought not to fly then ![]() |
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"Chris" wrote in :
"Judah" wrote in message . .. What about pilots who have no friends or family? such a sad git ought not to fly then ![]() But it's the only thing that keeps me happy. Besides, it's the reason that my wife left me in the first place! |
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Chris wrote:
here in the UK the way a VFR flight plan works is that the pilot nominates a responsible person (family member, FBO etc) to make the call if they are overdue rather than have the ATC make assumptions. The basis is that no news is good news. That's the way most of us who don't file flight plans do things over here. George Patterson Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor. It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him. |
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![]() "George Patterson" wrote in message news:z4gaf.3515$y23.3093@trndny08... Chris wrote: here in the UK the way a VFR flight plan works is that the pilot nominates a responsible person (family member, FBO etc) to make the call if they are overdue rather than have the ATC make assumptions. The basis is that no news is good news. That's the way most of us who don't file flight plans do things over here. I only file a VFR flight plan when I have to either when travelling over water or across and international boundary. Travelling to France one needs to telephone on landing to close the flight plan. The French will send you a bill for a needless SAR callout, usually about $15000, but returning to the UK the process is a whole lot simpler. |
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