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I've always worn a helmet.

Me, too. Been riding for 29 years, been "down" just once -- and the very
first part of my anatomy that hit the ground was my head. Didn't even have
time to put an arm up, or anything.

After that, I bought a really good full-faced helmet, and I never, EVER ride
without it. Without that helmet, I'd be a veggie right now.

You can get mighty darn toasty in leathers in the summer. I could
only
manage them during the cooler months.

Heh. We crossed the Mojave desert, at noon -- TWICE -- wearing leathers.
Mary was sitting on the back, spraying my back with water...

It was hell, but our bags were so full, we had no place to pack 'em. (I
eventually sat on the coat, which helped.)

Two days later, we were riding in Yellowstone -- in the snow...

Ah, to be young again....NOT!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote

After that, I bought a really good full-faced helmet, and I never, EVER
ride
without it. Without that helmet, I'd be a veggie right now.

And you can tell the difference, how? BFG ducking and running!
--
Jim in NC

Skywise wrote:

I've always worn a helmet.

Same here. For a few years, I had an old helmet in the garage with a bare spot
in the front where the paint had been rubbed off. Guess how that happened?

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise.

I'm blind without my glasses and, until recently, wore ones with wrap-around ear
pieces. I was never able to get a full face helmet on without removing my
glasses and was never able to get my glasses on once the helmet was on. On the
other hand, the wind around my glasses would concentrate on my eyes and blind
me. Standard helmet with face shield was the only way to go for me. Recently,
I've seen a full face model with a hinged chin guard. That might be the way to go.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:36:32 GMT, George Patterson
wrote:

Skywise wrote:

I've always worn a helmet.

Same here. For a few years, I had an old helmet in the garage with a bare spot
in the front where the paint had been rubbed off. Guess how that happened?

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise.

I'm blind without my glasses and, until recently, wore ones with wrap-around ear
pieces. I was never able to get a full face helmet on without removing my
glasses and was never able to get my glasses on once the helmet was on. On the
other hand, the wind around my glasses would concentrate on my eyes and blind
me. Standard helmet with face shield was the only way to go for me. Recently,
I've seen a full face model with a hinged chin guard. That might be the way to go.

I'm not sure my full-face Shoei cuts down on wind noise enough.

In the days before headsets, I used to fly with earplugs, which were a
great fatigue-reducer. The logic was that if anything I wanted to
hear was X dB louder than the engine noise without the plugs, it was X
dB louder with them in, and if it wasn't louder than the ambient
noise to start with, I wasn't going to hear it anyway.

So I figure it's the same way on a motorcycle, and I use earplugs
inside the helmet on long noisy rides.

Or I do now. When I had the '74 BMW with the full Vetta fairing, I
didn't have to worry about noise.

Don

I've got a bright orange full face helmet. I put it on then put on
the glasses. No problems. It may just be the model of the helmet
that doesn't work with your glasses.

In fact, I'm now considering moving to a full face helmet to cut down
on wind noise.

I used to wear an open helmet, but that was behind a full windshield. Now,
riding a sport bike, I have a full face, but really, I don't think the wind
noise is much better with the full helmet with the plexi face shield. I
still wear ear plugs, if I am going over a few miles.


On the
other hand, the wind around my glasses would concentrate on my eyes and
blind
me. Standard helmet with face shield was the only way to go for me.

Really? I never had that problem, but that was with a windshield.

Recently,
I've seen a full face model with a hinged chin guard. That might be the
way to go.

Interesting. I wonder if it would stay in place when (if) you really need
it.
--
Jim in NC

I'm blind without my glasses and, until recently, wore ones with
wrap-around ear pieces. I was never able to get a full face helmet on
without removing my glasses and was never able to get my glasses on once
the helmet was on. On the other hand, the wind around my glasses would
concentrate on my eyes and blind me. Standard helmet with face shield was
the only way to go for me. Recently, I've seen a full face model with a
hinged chin guard. That might be the way to go.

Mary and I have been riding with hinged BMW helmets since the mid '80s, when
I was still a smoker. We paid something absolutely insane -- like, $300
apiece -- for them, (what's that, in today's money -- probably $700?), but
they have been VERY durable.

I finally replaced mine two years ago with a hinged full-face Shoei. It is
LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Beemers, with a much easier (yet more positive)
locking system, a better vent system, and it is MUCH lighter. I think it
cost about the same, but in today's money.

That Beemer helmet was like a Dave Clark headset -- extremely durable, but
uncomfortable after a few hours. The Shoei, by contrast, can be worn
indefinitely.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

I finally replaced mine two years ago with a hinged full-face Shoei. It is
LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Beemers, with a much easier (yet more positive)
locking system, a better vent system, and it is MUCH lighter. I think it
cost about the same, but in today's money.

When I looked into those flip-up helmets years ago, I remember you
couldn't get one that was Snell certified because the flip-up chin guard
wouldn't pass the impact tests that a real full face helmet could. So, at
the time, I figured I might as well just go for the comfort of an open
face helmet with face shield. I wonder if the flip-ups are being made
better, now.

--- Jay


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When I looked into those flip-up helmets years ago, I remember you
couldn't get one that was Snell certified because the flip-up chin guard
wouldn't pass the impact tests that a real full face helmet could. So, at
the time, I figured I might as well just go for the comfort of an open
face helmet with face shield. I wonder if the flip-ups are being made
better, now.

Yeah, now that you mention it, that *was* a problem for BMW back in the 80s.
I remember they just kind of shrugged when I brought it up. (This wasn't
mentioned with the Shoei purchase.)

Really, I guess you have to figure that *something* between your chin and
the curb is better than nothing -- Snell rated or not.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Masino wrote:

When I looked into those flip-up helmets years ago, I remember you
couldn't get one that was Snell certified because the flip-up chin guard
wouldn't pass the impact tests that a real full face helmet could. So, at
the time, I figured I might as well just go for the comfort of an open
face helmet with face shield. I wonder if the flip-ups are being made
better, now.

Dunno about Snell certification, but they're DOT approved.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.