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Jay Honeck wrote:

I finally replaced mine two years ago with a hinged full-face Shoei. It is
LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Beemers, with a much easier (yet more positive)
locking system, a better vent system, and it is MUCH lighter. I think it
cost about the same, but in today's money.

When I looked into those flip-up helmets years ago, I remember you
couldn't get one that was Snell certified because the flip-up chin guard
wouldn't pass the impact tests that a real full face helmet could. So, at
the time, I figured I might as well just go for the comfort of an open
face helmet with face shield. I wonder if the flip-ups are being made
better, now.

--- Jay


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When I looked into those flip-up helmets years ago, I remember you
couldn't get one that was Snell certified because the flip-up chin guard
wouldn't pass the impact tests that a real full face helmet could. So, at
the time, I figured I might as well just go for the comfort of an open
face helmet with face shield. I wonder if the flip-ups are being made
better, now.

Yeah, now that you mention it, that *was* a problem for BMW back in the 80s.
I remember they just kind of shrugged when I brought it up. (This wasn't
mentioned with the Shoei purchase.)

Really, I guess you have to figure that *something* between your chin and
the curb is better than nothing -- Snell rated or not.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Masino wrote:

When I looked into those flip-up helmets years ago, I remember you
couldn't get one that was Snell certified because the flip-up chin guard
wouldn't pass the impact tests that a real full face helmet could. So, at
the time, I figured I might as well just go for the comfort of an open
face helmet with face shield. I wonder if the flip-ups are being made
better, now.

Dunno about Snell certification, but they're DOT approved.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

"George Patterson" wrote

Dunno about Snell certification, but they're DOT approved.

Do you have a specific brand, or web site that I could go to (or search to
find) and see one of these beauties? I sure am interested!
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Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:

Do you have a specific brand, or web site that I could go to (or search to
find) and see one of these beauties? I sure am interested!

Here's one. Not Jay's brand, though ...
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=116803

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

Do you have a specific brand, or web site that I could go to (or search to
find) and see one of these beauties? I sure am interested!

Here's a good comparison article about flip-up helmets:

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/acc...r/fliphelmets/
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Morgans wrote:

"George Patterson" wrote

Dunno about Snell certification, but they're DOT approved.

Do you have a specific brand, or web site that I could go to (or search to
find) and see one of these beauties? I sure am interested!

I wear an HJC Sy-Max:

http://www.hjchelmets.com/symax.htm

It's fairly comfortable, but I have a problem with fogging on cool
mornings. I haven't put any no-fog on the shield yet, however.


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George Patterson wrote:
Dunno about Snell certification, but they're DOT approved.

DOT approval is a lot easier to get (less stringent) than Snell. For
example, a lot of the small, half helmets are DOT approved.

--- Jay


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http://www2.ari.net/jmasino ! ! !
http://www.OceanCityAirport.com
http://www.oc-Adolfos.com

Jay Masino wrote:

DOT approval is a lot easier to get (less stringent) than Snell.

That's what I was afraid of.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.