A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Piloting
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

TSA



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #13  
Old November 7th 05, 01:10 AM
LWG
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default TSA

Agreed, but isn't this really idiotic?

What is to stop someone from simply copying a tail number and connecting it
to the pilot who flies the plane? How many lessons would it take to learn
to take off, contact Potomac and set a code? Come up on freq at the
checkpoint and get your squawk. I'll bet each of the 9/11 hijackers could
do that, were they still alive today.

Just how stupid do you have to be not to see that any motivated and
marginally competent person with evil intentions and the willingness to
rent, borrow or steal an airplane can get into the ADIZ and as close to the
FRZ as I can, without anyone in authority knowing.

All the ADIZ does is placate the soccer mom mentality incapable of rational
thought, and punish innocent transgressors. Our mistake is that we think the
people out to do us harm are as moronic as those who are clamoring for
protection.


I don't believe that is the purpose of the DC ADIZ; it is the purpose
of the FRZ. There are SAM missiles for stopping unidentified
intentional intrusions into the FRZ. The ADIZ serves to provide
Customs with an opportunity to identify flights as friend or foe
before they penetrate the FRZ and are shot down.



  #14  
Old November 7th 05, 02:19 AM
Capt.Doug
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default TSA

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
Specifically what happens? Are you saying that Customs interceptor
aircraft are often incapable of identifying errant aircraft
penetrating the ADIZ' along the nation's boarders?


An occassional aircraft penetrates the border without being inspected by
Customs.

We have no way of knowing the Secret Service policy governing
unidentified targets penetrating the FRZ.


My imagination flies.

D.


  #15  
Old November 7th 05, 08:06 AM
Larry Dighera
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default TSA

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:10:02 -0500, "LWG"
wrote in ::


All the ADIZ does is placate the soccer mom mentality incapable of rational
thought, and punish innocent transgressors.


I never meant to imply that the DC ADIZ/FRZ were effective security
measures.

  #16  
Old November 8th 05, 12:31 AM
LWG
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default TSA

I know you didn't.

I was just venting about what I think is an asinine waste time and money
that doesn't withstand the least scrutiny.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:10:02 -0500, "LWG"
wrote in ::


All the ADIZ does is placate the soccer mom mentality incapable of
rational
thought, and punish innocent transgressors.


I never meant to imply that the DC ADIZ/FRZ were effective security
measures.



  #17  
Old November 9th 05, 02:30 PM
Tom
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default TSA

I always wonder what the public will think of Cessna 152 parts and flaming
SAM fuel raining down on their heads when and if one is ever launched.

Tom

"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
...
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
I don't believe that is the purpose of the DC ADIZ; it is the purpose
of the FRZ. There are SAM missiles for stopping unidentified
intentional intrusions into the FRZ. The ADIZ serves to provide
Customs with an opportunity to identify flights as friend or foe
before they penetrate the FRZ and are shot down.


That's the point I'm getting to- Customs, or whoever is on duty, won't
have
time or equipment to identify the intruder. It happens on the borders
quite
often. The SAMs are likely capable of taking out the target, but will the
launch personnel have authorization before it's too late when Customs or
whoever is on duty fails to properly identify the target as friend or foe?

It's a completely uninspired system concept that is so flawed as to be
incapable of accomplishing its purpose and only impacts the innocent.


Agreed, its a hysterical kneejerk reaction from politicians who don't have
a
clue.

D.




  #18  
Old November 9th 05, 04:02 PM
Larry Dighera
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default TSA

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:30:32 -0700, "Tom" wrote in
::

I always wonder what the public will think of Cessna 152 parts and flaming
SAM fuel raining down on their heads when and if one is ever launched.


Given the SS policy of evacuating the bureau crafts from the safety of
their buildings and their running around outside at the slightest hint
of an approaching 1,600 pound aircraft, their behavior is consistent
with someone wishing to bathe in a deluge of aircraft debris and fuel.
"But that's just me; I could be wrong." :-)
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.