If you fly an Amphib, don't do this

Amphib nosewheels don't fully retract inside, but they do go up.
Notice the mains are down also.

HE FAILED TO RAISE THE GEAR!! That's why he flipped over forward!! The
nosegear was down and caught the water and flipped him forward.

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"Doug" wrote:

Amphib nosewheels don't fully retract inside, but they do go up.
Notice the mains are down also.

HE FAILED TO RAISE THE GEAR!! That's why he flipped over forward!! The
nosegear was down and caught the water and flipped him forward.

Actually, the drag of the mains pitched him over; the nose gear just
finished the job.

Actually, the drag of the mains pitched him over; the nose gear just
finished the job.

It's interesting to speculate if he would have flipped if it was just
the mains. Of course they all go up and down together. No one really
knows for sure, but I tend to think it wouldn't be a full flip if it
werent for the nose gear catching. No one knows for sure. There HAVE
been gear up water landings where there wasn't a flip, but generally,
landing with the gear down in the water is pretty bad news. Landing
with the gear UP on land is not so bad, no prop strike, by the way.

Gear switch on an amphib is a little different mindset. You don't just
turn the warning off by putting the gear down. You position the gear
where it should be and turn the warning off by pushing a button. Also,
the amount of drag presented by amphib gear is not as dramatic as gear
on land planes, so its not always obvious where the gear is by wind
noise and how the plane flies.

On 6 Nov 2005 20:43:54 -0800, "Doug"
wrote:

Actually, the drag of the mains pitched him over; the nose gear just
finished the job.

It's interesting to speculate if he would have flipped if it was just
the mains. Of course they all go up and down together. No one really
knows for sure, but I tend to think it wouldn't be a full flip if it
werent for the nose gear catching. No one knows for sure. There HAVE
been gear up water landings where there wasn't a flip, but generally,
landing with the gear down in the water is pretty bad news. Landing
with the gear UP on land is not so bad, no prop strike, by the way.

Gear switch on an amphib is a little different mindset. You don't just
turn the warning off by putting the gear down. You position the gear
where it should be and turn the warning off by pushing a button. Also,
the amount of drag presented by amphib gear is not as dramatic as gear
on land planes, so its not always obvious where the gear is by wind
noise and how the plane flies.

I'm sure people have landed sucesfully with the gear down on some
planes. On my plane the pitch forward landing on glassy water requires
full up elevator to prevent pitch over. I think that landing was
beyond recovery the second the mains touched the water.