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Old November 10th 05, 01:03 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Assuming the pilot is continually tuning his traditional navigation
radios,
then including those in his instrument scan. And what if he does not?


Why would he do that?



You asked what the risks of flying IFR with a VFR GPS are. There's one.


But I didn't ask what are the risks of flying IFR using a VFR GPS
exclusively.


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Old November 10th 05, 01:32 AM
Peter R.
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

But I didn't ask what are the risks of flying IFR using a VFR GPS
exclusively.


You didn't ask what are the risks of flying IFR using a VFR GPS in concert
with other navigation instruments, either.

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Old November 10th 05, 01:44 AM
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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You didn't ask what are the risks of flying IFR using a VFR GPS in concert
with other navigation instruments, either.


No, I didn't. I didn't have to, as the the other navigation instruments are
required to be there. The bottom line is you haven't identified any risk
from flying IFR with a VFR GPS.


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Old November 10th 05, 01:49 AM
Peter R.
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

No, I didn't. I didn't have to, as the the other navigation instruments are
required to be there.


Are they required to be used?

The bottom line is you haven't identified any risk
from flying IFR with a VFR GPS.


Yes I did. Just because your newsgroup pride won't let you recognize it
doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Old November 10th 05, 02:06 AM
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Yes I did. Just because your newsgroup pride won't let you recognize it
doesn't mean it didn't happen.


Are you seriously going to maintain that the risk in flying IFR with a VFR
GPS is that it will cause the pilot to leave his required nav radios off and
he will then not recognize if he has drifted off the assigned airway in a
nonradar environment?


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Old November 10th 05, 02:10 AM
Peter R.
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Are you seriously going to maintain that the risk in flying IFR with a VFR
GPS is that it will cause the pilot to leave his required nav radios off and
he will then not recognize if he has drifted off the assigned airway in a
nonradar environment?


Yes, I am going to maintain that premise because even more unthinkable,
someone was actually killed flying a GPS approach with nothing but a VFR
GPS. If someone was crazy enough to do that, then I certainly do not have
a problem believing that someone might attempt navigation on an assigned
airway with nothing but a VFR GPS.

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Old November 10th 05, 02:14 AM
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"Peter R." wrote:

Yes, I am going to maintain that premise because even more unthinkable,
someone was actually killed flying a GPS approach with nothing but a VFR
GPS.


Here's the accident report:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...23X05372&key=1

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Old November 10th 05, 02:18 AM
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Yes,


Then you have identified yourself as an idiot.


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Old November 10th 05, 08:40 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Peter,

I am going to maintain that premise because even more unthinkable,
someone was actually killed flying a GPS approach with nothing but a VFR
GPS. I


So what does that show? People do stupid things in airplanes all the time.
Are you suggesting flying should be prohibited because of that?

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