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Old November 11th 05, 04:33 PM
Jose
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Perhaps, but the reason for my reference to the accident in this thread was
to support my point that the possibility exists for instrument-rated pilots
to use a VFR GPS as the only means of navigation. It is unquestionable
that this accident pilot did.


It is =not= unquestionable that this accident pilot did. It is known
that a VFR GPS was found at the accident site. If a tuna sandwich was
found there, would that be incontrivertable evidence that the pilot was
relying solely on a tuna sandwich for IFR flight?

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Old November 11th 05, 05:15 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Jose,

If a tuna sandwich was
found there, would that be incontrivertable evidence that the pilot was
relying solely on a tuna sandwich for IFR flight?


In that case, it would of course be incontrovertible that both occupants
had the fish and the accident was caused by that.

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Old November 11th 05, 05:16 PM
Mark Hansen
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On 11/11/2005 08:33, Jose wrote:

Perhaps, but the reason for my reference to the accident in this thread was
to support my point that the possibility exists for instrument-rated pilots
to use a VFR GPS as the only means of navigation. It is unquestionable
that this accident pilot did.


It is =not= unquestionable that this accident pilot did. It is known
that a VFR GPS was found at the accident site. If a tuna sandwich was
found there, would that be incontrivertable evidence that the pilot was
relying solely on a tuna sandwich for IFR flight?


Perhaps not, but it might come in handy ;-)

Sorry, you're response (with which I agree 100%) just made me laugh.


Jose



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Old November 11th 05, 06:37 PM
Peter R.
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Jose wrote:

It is =not= unquestionable that this accident pilot did. It is known
that a VFR GPS was found at the accident site.


The pilot was cleared to fly a GPS approach into the airport and struck the
tower along the approach course. How else was he navigating, if not by the
VFR GPS?

Again, I agree that hitting the tower was not due to the navigation device
used.

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Old November 11th 05, 07:04 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Again, I agree that hitting the tower was not due to the navigation device
used.


Then why did you bring this accident into the discussion?


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Old November 11th 05, 07:27 PM
Peter R.
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Again, I agree that hitting the tower was not due to the navigation device
used.


Then why did you bring this accident into the discussion?


Now you are trolling.

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Old November 11th 05, 07:35 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Now you are trolling.


I'm just asking a simple question. Why wont you answer it?


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Old November 11th 05, 07:37 PM
Peter R.
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

I'm just asking a simple question. Why wont you answer it?


I already did.

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Old November 11th 05, 07:43 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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I already did.


A review of the thread indicates you haven't.


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Old November 11th 05, 06:56 PM
John Theune
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Jose wrote:

Perhaps, but the reason for my reference to the accident in this
thread was
to support my point that the possibility exists for instrument-rated
pilots
to use a VFR GPS as the only means of navigation. It is unquestionable
that this accident pilot did.



It is =not= unquestionable that this accident pilot did. It is known
that a VFR GPS was found at the accident site. If a tuna sandwich was
found there, would that be incontrivertable evidence that the pilot was
relying solely on a tuna sandwich for IFR flight?

Jose

If he had asked for the Tuna Fish approach to his destination I would
agree. He asked for the GPS approach and the only GPS on board his
aircraft was the hand held.
 




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