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Old February 2nd 04, 03:01 PM
Mike Rapoport
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Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a combination of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.

Mike
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"Haywood Jablome" wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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I would argue that national parks and medical R&D are National issues

and
as
such should be funded at the National level. An artifical rain forest

in
Iowa is clearly not a National issue


Here is another national issue that needs some funding: Our sick

dependance
on foreign oil that funds the very terrorists that seek to destroy us. And
I'm not talking about some wacky unworkable idea for hydrogen fuel in 20

or
30 years.

Where is the backbone of real leadership? No. Our so-called leaders wish

to
spend us into oblivion instead.




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Old February 2nd 04, 09:20 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a combination of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.


The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving SUV's and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.





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Old February 2nd 04, 10:44 PM
Gig Giacona
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a combination

of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.


The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving SUV's and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.


Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms could be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument that is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask why it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show my wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.

Gig Giacona


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Old February 2nd 04, 10:47 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a combination

of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.


The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip

planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving SUV's and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.


Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms could be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument that is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask why it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show my

wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.


And she said, "so what"?


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Old February 2nd 04, 10:57 PM
Gig Giacona
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy

but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a

combination
of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.

The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip

planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving SUV's

and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.


Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms could

be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument that

is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask why it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show my

wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.


And she said, "so what"?



Actually it usually ends the argument because when what starts the argument
is her saying she didn't have time to do something or other. I show her
where the time went and Poof. I'm off the hook for whatever and I go back to
working on the plane.


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Old February 2nd 04, 11:04 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy

but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a

combination
of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.

The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip

planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving SUV's

and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.


Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms could

be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument

that
is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask why

it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show

my
wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.


And she said, "so what"?



Actually it usually ends the argument because when what starts the

argument
is her saying she didn't have time to do something or other. I show her
where the time went and Poof. I'm off the hook for whatever and I go back

to
working on the plane.


Whatever works.


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Old February 2nd 04, 11:54 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
...

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty

easy
but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a

combination
of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.

The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip
planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving

SUV's
and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.


Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms

could
be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument

that
is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask

why
it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show

my
wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.

And she said, "so what"?



Actually it usually ends the argument because when what starts the

argument
is her saying she didn't have time to do something or other. I show her
where the time went and Poof. I'm off the hook for whatever and I go

back
to
working on the plane.


Whatever works.

If it works, let me know -- I've been try for nearly 25 years to get my wife
to combine trips.



  #8  
Old February 2nd 04, 11:52 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
Actually ending our dependence on foriegn oil would be pretty easy but
people don't want to do it. In round figures:

We import about a third of our Petroleum
Two thirds of petroleum is used for transportation

It is possible to cut transportation use in half through a combination

of
fuel efficiency and more efficient trip planning.


The reason we don't is that the costs are horrendous. As for trip

planning
and fuel efficiency, I'd like to see how Soccer Mom's® driving SUV's and
mini-vans are going to improve their trip planning.


Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms could be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument that is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask why it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show my

wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.


Well, we can FORCE them, ya know.


  #9  
Old February 3rd 04, 03:17 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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Gig Giacona wrote:

I can show my wife how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.


I'll bet that makes you real popular.

George Patterson
Love, n.: A form of temporary insanity afflicting the young. It is curable
either by marriage or by removal of the afflicted from the circumstances
under which he incurred the condition. It is sometimes fatal, but more
often to the physician than to the patient.
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Old February 3rd 04, 02:16 PM
Ray Andraka
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Sounds like a formula for marital bliss

Gig Giacona wrote:

Ha....... I have no doubt that the mileage driven by Soccer Moms could be
reduced by 35% or more with a little planning. This is an argument that is
had often around the old homestead and whenever it comes up I ask why it
took 2 hours for what was clearly a 1 hour bunch of stops I can show my wife
how it could have easily be done in a more efficient manner.

Gig Giacona


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