A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Rotorcraft
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Groen Bros. DARPA Award



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 12th 05, 07:40 PM
Jim Carriere
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Groen Bros. DARPA Award

Dave Jackson wrote:
".... team to design a proof of concept high speed, long range, vertical
takeoff and landing (VTOL) aircraft designed for use in Combat Search and
Rescue roles. ........"

The above press release mentions 'Rescue'. Does not the landing and taking
off from difficulty locations, or the use of a winch, make the ability to
hover a necessary requirement?


I'd say yes, hover is absolutely a requirement, but not only because of
the landing and taking off part (you may not be able to land at all).

Speaking of only SAR, landing is usually most preferred, but not always
possible. The lack of ability to hover is a serious disadvantage. This
isn't rocket science either... think LZ considerations vegetation,
water, terrain, buildings...

If you land at all, no-hover landings and takeoffs are a consideration,
mainly to minimize blowing dust. A big disadvantage on landing is if
there is soft or irregular terrain or small obstacles. Think rocks,
tree stumps, gopher holes hidden by tall grass. The bottom of the
aircraft can be damaged, landing gear might get caught (result dynamic
rollover). Another option in soft terrain is to touchdown but not take
all the power off while personnel get in or get out of the aircraft. If
you're talking CSAR, you may not have time for a recce pass of the LZ,
and the final decision of if and how to touchdown may be made only a few
feet above landing. That is if there is an LZ at all.

Using a gyro for CSAR support, well, that may be worth consideration,
but it would involve rewriting some doctrine

Just a few of my thoughts.
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
U.S. Air Force award of four rocket launches this year is likely to be delayed Larry Dighera Military Aviation 15 May 14th 04 01:58 PM
Groen Bros. Al Colunio Rotorcraft 6 May 8th 04 02:22 AM
WINGS: When do the clocks start ticking? Andrew Gideon Piloting 6 February 3rd 04 03:01 PM
Air Force announces small diameter bomb contract award Otis Willie Military Aviation 0 October 9th 03 09:52 PM
Army officer recieves Tuskegee Airman Award Otis Willie Military Aviation 0 August 21st 03 09:15 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.