Are People Still Flying As Much Around You?

Nope,
100 LL ! They do not have any other type available on the field. Amazing
since they have the old birds, but they also have 172 , 150 and an Archer .
Guess it's easier to just have one type of fuel. They keep their insurance
rates nile by having renters have their own policies. Maybe it's alot like
the medical industry ...insurance companies keep the prices outrageous?
Places here will not touch a taildragger because of THAT cost. So people
can't fly cheap, and most don't fly. MHO of course!

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech


"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:dHUcf.3189$2R6.560@trndny06...
W P Dixon wrote:
Even with the gas increase the rate is $47.00 for the Champ and Cub where
I fly. Really is a hard to beat price.

Maybe they're using car gas? Prices are down around here to $2.13/gallon.
That's about .15 above pre-Katrina prices.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your
neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

I personally am not flying as much. If I have a trip i can take the
plane I do, but I did not make any dinner runs to Knoxville DKX this
past summer. 14 GPH in the six for 1.3 round trip = 18.2 @$4.20- 75.00
for a short rib run to Calhouns...I'm loosing my appetite, and I'm a big
feller.

Robert, tell us about Calhouns.
What airport? (is DKX downtown?)
Is is walking distance from the airport?
Wet ribs or dry?
How much for a full rack?

Some of the best ribs you'll eat. I was also wondering about transportation
to the river front restaurant. I don't think they have a crew/courtesy car
for use, esp.. at night.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

ps: make SURE the Vols are not playing or forgettaboutit.

"john smith" wrote in message
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Robert, tell us about Calhouns.
What airport? (is DKX downtown?)
Is is walking distance from the airport?
Wet ribs or dry?
How much for a full rack?

Jay Honeck wrote:

Yes. We're noticed it particularly in our flying club. Five years ago,
the club had 20 members (about 10 were active, I believe) and two
airplanes. We now have one airplane, 10 members, but only four of us who
currently fly the airplane. And the four of us have flown the airplane
only 54 hours total.


Why so little, Matt? I would think the club format would do well to keep
costs low...?

The costs are very reasonable at $56/hour wet plus $90 per month in
dues. Well, we just raised the hourly rate to $66 because of the fuel
costs of late, but still a good deal for a retractable.

I can't speak for the others, but the main reasons for me are distance
to the airport (45 minutes one-way for me) and three kids, a wife, and a
job with a fair amount of travel. The distance to the airport is the
biggest one for me. When I owned my own plane and had it located closer
(25 minutes vs. 45), I was much more inclined to run to the airport when
I had a couple of hours and take a short hop. Also, my plane was at a
non-towered field and I could be in the air literally a couple minutes
after engine start. Even though ELM is a pretty sleepy airport, it
still takes 10-15 minutes to go from engine start to in the air. It
takes time to get the ATIS and call for taxi and then it often is a 5-10
minute taxi to the active. And we have to deal with a slow security
gate to gain access to the hangars, etc. Basically, on a very good day
with no unusual delays, it takes me 60 minutes minimum from my house to
the air. And often it takes closer to 90 minutes. So even a short
flight takes a Saturday morning or a full evening in the summer.

I also flew a fair bit on company busines when I owned my plane as I had
the insurance my employer requires for their GAP (General Aviation
Program). Unfortunately, since 9/11, I can't get the required insurance
($1MM/$500K). The club carries $1MM/$100K and the best non-owner policy
I've found also as the $100K/person limitation. I was flying 25 or more
hours a year on business trips which helped a lot, but I now end up
either driving on these or flying the airlines.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:

The distance to the airport is the
biggest one for me. When I owned my own plane and had it located closer
(25 minutes vs. 45), I was much more inclined to run to the airport when
I had a couple of hours and take a short hop.

I also found that to be the case. After I moved from Franklin to Middletown (and
the plane moved from Manville to Old Bridge), my air hours went way down. In my
case, I also found the area down here less attractive to fly over.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

john smith wrote:
I personally am not flying as much. If I have a trip i can take the
plane I do, but I did not make any dinner runs to Knoxville DKX this
past summer. 14 GPH in the six for 1.3 round trip = 18.2 @$4.20- 75.00
for a short rib run to Calhouns...I'm loosing my appetite, and I'm a big
feller.


Robert, tell us about Calhouns.
What airport? (is DKX downtown?)
Is is walking distance from the airport?
Wet ribs or dry?
How much for a full rack?
DKX is downtown island airport on the river. Calhoun's is in the river,
but about a mile west and on the other side. It's not walkable because
you have to go to the bridge to cross over. Knox Air has a toyota ?
courtesy car. Call ahead or you might get stuck using a cab. I'm a dry
fan, but these are some of the best wet ribs around. If memory serves me
right about 12-14 for a full rack. Live entertainment on the deck on
nice weekends. Bring another pilot and get you order for a fresh micro
brewed hefewiesen while they are in the bathroom-they fly home.
A temporary tower operates in Vol game days at dkx as well as a shuttle
to Neyland Stadium, which is walking distance to Calhoun s.

I can't speak for the others, but the main reasons for me are distance to
the airport (45 minutes one-way for me) and three kids, a wife, and a job
with a fair amount of travel.

Yeah, I hear that a lot.

Interestingly, in the last few days traffic has been sky-high (ouch!) at our
airport, with the pattern stuffed with planes of all types.

Maybe it was just a little lull I was sensing? Dunno...

Today's predicted winds of 40+ knots ought to keep the weekend pilots on the
ground...!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Today's predicted winds of 40+ knots ought to keep the weekend pilots on
the ground...!


Another 'all-nighter' of window rattling wind last night in the Twin Cities.

(ANE) Anoka County-Blaine, MN
Sunday morning:

...........TEMP......WIND....(Gusts 50% higher)
6am.......37........W/23
7am....................W/26
8am.......37........W/23
9am.......39........WNW/24
10am.....39........WNW/31
11am.....41........WNW/34
12pm.....45........WNW/30


Montblack

Another 'all-nighter' of window rattling wind last night in the Twin
Cities.

(ANE) Anoka County-Blaine, MN
Sunday morning:

..........TEMP......WIND....(Gusts 50% higher)
6am.......37........W/23
7am....................W/26
8am.......37........W/23
9am.......39........WNW/24
10am.....39........WNW/31
11am.....41........WNW/34
12pm.....45........WNW/30

Yeah, did you see the charts today? It looked like a friggin' hurricane in
Minnesota! I don't ever remember seeing isobars so tightly spaced in the
upper midwest.

We stayed firmly on the ground today.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"