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W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). wrote:
I understand that frequently if someone lands wheel up, when asked if they did pre-landing checks they say "oh, yes!". The point of course is that those who are taught pre-landing checks are flying training gliders with a fixed wheel, and so they are used to saying the check item but doing nothing. Perhaps, if they had a gear up warning system, it would have alerted them to the put the gear down, and avoided the gear up landing. I find having the buzzer screech at me is a good training aid, and I redouble my efforts to avoid it in the future. The people I know that have landed gear up had 100's (or more) of hours in the glider they landed gear up, so it seems they were used to "doing something". The gear up landings I'm familiar with almost always involved some distraction so that the checks were not done, or the pilot grabbed the wrong handle, or the gear was down for the whole flight and raised for landing. Also, the pre-landing checks I was taught did not involve the gear, flaps, or ballast, as the ASK 13 had none of these, and I suspect many (most?) US pilots were trained that way. All this leads me to believe the situation you suggest is a rare one. Personally, the 3 times my gear up warning saved me, I had 200, 1000, and 1500 hours in various retractable gear gliders. All involved distraction. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Eric Greenwell wrote:
The gear up landings I'm familiar with almost always involved some distraction so that the checks were not done, I did my first and (yet) only gear up landing, luckily on grass, with 300 hours, most of them with retractable gear. I know exactly why this happened: I was on a cross country in an unknown region and had to outland on a controlled airport. I knew the airport had a grass and a concrete runway, but wasn't there before and I wasn't prepared to land there. The runway couldn't be seen during the approach, but only on downwind. So I had first to decide that I had to land there, then study the airport chart, talk to them, enter the controlled airspace, follow their instructions, navigate in an unknown place with an "invisible" runway, look out for that runway etc., which all broke my routine. I always do my checks on a certain point during the approach sequence. But that sequence was broken and additional workload was introduced, and that got me. I've reviewed my routine since. Stefan |
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![]() My one gear warning save happened while doing touch and goes with my Mooney. Neglected to raise the gear on take-off, then abeam the numbers, flipped the gear switch up. Briefly wondered why that darn distracting beep-beep-beep thing was making such a racket. Within a second or two, came to my senses and exclaiming to myself, "Holy Bananas" (or some similar, equally appropriate thing). Switch down, no damage, glad there's a gear warning horn even though I'm originally a Brit'. bumper |
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