GA security question

Paul Missman wrote:
Frode,

At controlled airports in the US, the FBO desk clerk is going to find out
who you are before you are allowed onto the ramp.

Not at any airport I'm aware of. How would they do that?

Newps wrote:

Paul Missman wrote:

Frode,

At controlled airports in the US, the FBO desk clerk is going to find
out who you are before you are allowed onto the ramp.

Not at any airport I'm aware of. How would they do that?

Haven't flown into many since 9/11, have you? It really doesn't depend on
whether the airport is controlled or not; it depends on whether or not there's
commercial traffic. Try Cherokee Aviation at TYS, for example. The doors to the
ramp won't open from the inside unless the clerk allows it. SHD has a similar
arrangement, and they're not controlled.

Some airports had similar security before 9/11. In 1995, I stopped at a place in
Georgia (I think it was Albany) that had a key code pad on the ramp door.
Transients had to get an official to let them out. At Roanoke, the desk clerk
had to let you out for many years before 9/11.

George Patterson
If a tank is out of ammunition, what you have is a sixty ton portable
radio.

: Transients had to get an official to let them out. At Roanoke, the desk clerk
: had to let you out for many years before 9/11.

Roanoke really likes to pretend that they're a real airport.

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"Newps" wrote:

At controlled airports in the US, the FBO desk clerk is going to find
out who you are before you are allowed onto the ramp.

Not at any airport I'm aware of. How would they do that?

How they find out who you are varies. They control access to the ramp
with electrically operated doors and gates.

I seldom ran into any of this stuff before 9/11; I've seen plenty of it
since.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Newps wrote:


Paul Missman wrote:

Frode,

At controlled airports in the US, the FBO desk clerk is going to find
out who you are before you are allowed onto the ramp.


Not at any airport I'm aware of. How would they do that?

Controlled meaning controlled access. I believe this applies for
airports with scheduled air carrier service using aircraft holding 30 or
more passengers. Generally, the FBOs at these airports have electronic
locks and alarms on the doors leading to the ramp, and the desk clerk
hits a button to open the lock and override the alarm. Unless you have
a security badge for that airport, you are supposed to be escorted any
time you are on the secure side of the fence (ie. on the ramp).

Specific examples? KPVD, KBOS, KBWI, KABE, KBDL are a few I've flown
into within the past several weeks that are this way (KPVD is my home base).

The biggest affect it has had on me is we can no longer bring a vehicle
onto the field to make loading/unloading easier. We used to be able to
bring a vehicle onto the field as long as we were escorted by the FBO.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:51:45 -0700, Newps wrote:


Paul Missman wrote:

At controlled airports in the US, the FBO desk clerk is going to find out
who you are before you are allowed onto the ramp.

Not at any airport I'm aware of. How would they do that?

Not only that, but what self-respecting terrorist is going to take a
chance on an FBO's employee spotting him? At our Class D in San Diego
County (not named for fear of even more hassles getting in & out), we
have locked gates with codes, but the fence is only 6' high. I jumped
it to get out one night when I couldn't make the gate open. Once
inside, if you look like a pilot or student (with a flight bag or a
headset in your hands), no one is likely to stop you from continuing
on through, unless you approach the terminal area.
Now the area around the terminal for the scheduled commuters (Saabs &
Brasilia's) does have guards, and you will be challenged if you walk
inside or close in front of that staging ramp without an ID necklace.
We have had some club members get in trouble for that, since we have
planes tied down on both sides of the terminal. You need to keep your
distance from that area.