Don't fly here...

"Brad" wrote in message
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Further, the statistics for Richmond (and perhaps other cities as
well) are skewed in that the crime stats for the City do not include
the suburbs in the surrounding counties that normally balance out the
crime rate.

That's why the stats ar for cities, not metro areas.

As a homeowner in Richmond and a resident in DC, I feel
much safer in Richmond than I do in DC...especially in the air

I'd feel safer anywhere besides DC.

wrote:
I've flown into Troy, Michigan (Oakland Troy Airport). Pretty good
place, surrounded by high dollar city/suburb.

Rick,
We've been to Oakland Troy KVLL several times while visiting my
brother in Troy. It's a friendly airport with reasonable fuel prices
and no charges for landing or overnight tiedown. Our last visit was
the 4th of July weekend, a very nice gentleman spent a considerable
amount of time finding some ropes for us to tie the plane down. We
took our brother's family up for a local flight. When we came back,
the ropes were moved to a different spot. It turned out that a
transient plane had occupied our spot and Jim? took the time to move
the ropes to the next spot ready for our return. In leaving, I offered
him a tip which he did not want to take until I told him that I would
feel much better if he did.
With Michigan being our old homestate, we could be somewhat
partial, but our experience with Michigan aviation community has been
great. To put it midly, it's a marked difference in dealing with New
York and Michigan's ATC ;-)

Hai Longworth

"AJ" wrote in message
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CNN quotes the mayor of Camden: "We're doing so many nice things now.
It's unfortunate that somebody always wants to bad-mouth Camden," Mayor
Gwendolyn Faison said.

Yeah, if you just ignore that murder, prostitution and drug trafficing
thing ....


"Other than the murders, our crime rate's not that bad." - DC Mayor Marion
Berry

Brad wrote:

much safer in Richmond than I do in DC...especially in the air

Yo - what's with this moving crap?

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kontiki wrote:
One nice thing about flying into "dangerous" places via GA is that you
can pack your pistol without any hassles. :^)

Well, the connection between "safest" and conceal carry states is
interesting:

At the other end of the scale, the safest cities are named as:
Newton, Massachusetts; No CCW
Clarkstown, New York; No CCW
Amherst, New York;
Mission Viejo, California; No CCW
Brick Township, New Jersey; No CCW
Troy, Michigan; yes
Thousand Oaks, California;
Round Rock, Texas; yes
Lake Forest, California;
Cary, North Carolina. Yes

JG

Well, the connection between "safest" and conceal carry states is
interesting:

At the other end of the scale, the safest cities are named as:
Newton, Massachusetts; No CCW
Clarkstown, New York; No CCW
Amherst, New York;
Mission Viejo, California; No CCW
Brick Township, New Jersey; No CCW
Troy, Michigan; yes
Thousand Oaks, California;
Round Rock, Texas; yes
Lake Forest, California;
Cary, North Carolina. Yes

It's suggestive when presented this way, but deceptively so IMHO (though
I agree with the premise). At least three out of the top ten are "yes"
and at least four of the top ten are "No". The top ten does not span
the range of risk, so the data is not very convincing.

Jose
--
He who laughs, lasts.
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I've been back and forth to BWI a bunch of times over the past few months.
Didn't seem all that bad, but then the airport is not actually in the city,
and I never made it much past the airport property...

I haven't been to Gary, IN personally, but one of my Employees has (we have
a customer there) and he said it was pretty well run down. Nothing like
what he heard about in the song.

I've driven through Newton, MA. I think it's a very dangerous city,
especially in a car. Perhaps not more than the rest of Massachusets,
though. Apparently, you don't actually need to know how to drive to get a
license in MA. Most of the Mass-Holes seem to confuse the highway Route #
signs with the Speed Limit signs (Rt 81, Rt 90, Rt 128).

I've been to Atlanta recently. Flew commercially. As with Massachusetts,
driving is definitely high risk. But as far as walking around downtown,
didn't seem very dangerous at all during the day.

Been to New Orleans before the flood. I don't think the flood had a
negative affect on the safety of the city. I remember one time I was down
there, my customer said to make sure I don't go down any alleyways that I
cannot see down first. Apparently, organ harvesting is big business in New
Orleans...



"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:1132600578.119512.137400
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

The list of the "Ten Most Dangerous Cities in America" was released
today.

Listed as the most dangerous cities a Camden, New Jersey; Detroit,
Michigan; St. Louis, Missouri; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia;
Baltimore, Maryland; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary,
Indiana; Birmingham, Alabama.

At the other end of the scale, the safest cities are named as: Newton,
Massachusetts; Clarkstown, New York; Amherst, New York; Mission Viejo,
California; Brick Township, New Jersey; Troy, Michigan; Thousand Oaks,
California; Round Rock, Texas; Lake Forest, California; Cary, North
Carolina.

Strangely, I've flown into three of the ten worst -- and none of the
best! (Although I've visited Mission Viejo...)

Anyone regularly fly out of any of these cities? Are they as bad as
they make them sound?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Judah wrote:
I've been back and forth to BWI a bunch of times over the past few months.
Didn't seem all that bad, but then the airport is not actually in the city,
and I never made it much past the airport property...

I haven't been to Gary, IN personally, but one of my Employees has (we have
a customer there) and he said it was pretty well run down. Nothing like
what he heard about in the song.

I've driven through Newton, MA. I think it's a very dangerous city,
especially in a car. Perhaps not more than the rest of Massachusets,
though. Apparently, you don't actually need to know how to drive to get a
license in MA. Most of the Mass-Holes seem to confuse the highway Route #
signs with the Speed Limit signs (Rt 81, Rt 90, Rt 128).

It is easy once you know the two basic rules - just like in Italy.

1. Whatsa behind is ofa no importance.
2. If you make eye contact, you have yielded the right-of-way.

Follow these two simple rules and you, too, can be a successful driver
in Boston and the rest of MA.


Matt

I spent most of my life in St. Louis. Personally, I don't understand why
St.Louis was selected as one of the most dangerous cities. I have seen the
good side and the bad side of this town. I considered the Southside of
Chicago, and several towns near Pittsburgh are more dangerous than
St.Louis. So, I have to say that St. Louis is not as bad as reported by
CNN.
I support this statement based on what I personally have seen.

You'd think they were talking about East St. Louis instead.

I came across this interesting page about ESL:

http://www.builtstlouis.net/eaststlouis/eaststl00.html

You'd think they were talking about East St. Louis instead.

East St Louis is one of the scariest places on the planet.

http://www.builtstlouis.net/eaststlouis/eaststl00.html

Interesting. Mary and I stood under the Arch, well after hours, one summer
night not long ago. Everything was closed and deserted, and we were the
ONLY people there. It was lovely, with a moon rising over the city...
Very romantic.

Then, it started to get creepy, knowing how close East St Louis was to us,
and how totally vulnerable we were. There we were, two dumb white people
with big targets painted on our backs, and we high-tailed it out of there.

A bittersweet memory. I still remember when most cities were safe to walk
around in.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"