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Old November 27th 05, 03:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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Default The need for original documents, N-reg aircraft?

CFIs don't need any medical. Many just get a 3rd class
because it is less of a hassle, costs less. As long as the
CFI doesn't act as PIC, he doesn't need the medical. Even
w/o the medical, a CFI can log PIC anytime he is instructing
and makes an endorsement in the pilot's logbook.
What can a CFI w/o a medical do...flight review as long as
the pilot's review is still valid and not expired.
Sport Pilot instruction in a LSA.
Any instruction where the CFI is not a required crewmember,
required crewmembers must have a CFI.
Thus, the CFI w/o a medical cannot be a safety pilot under
simulated instrument conditions.


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"Peter" wrote in message
...
|
| George Patterson wrote
|
| IME the first thing the insurance company checks is
that all paperwork
| is in order. So, if e.g. the pilot was not licensed to
do the flight,
| the insurer will walk away from it right away.
|
| This is not true. If the aircraft was actually
unairworthy (eg. expired annual),
| then the insurer would walk away. If the pilot did not
have a pilot's
| certificate at all, or was not rated for that category
and class of aircraft,
| then the insurer would walk away. If you have all the
paperwork but don't happen
| to have it in the plane, you're still insured.
|
| I agree with the above.
|
| It's interesting regarding originals. If it is that
important, why
| don't the regs spell it out explicitly? They would just
need to insert
| the word "original" (or the American-English equivalent,
whatever that
| is).
|
| The funny thing is that anyone can check out any pilot's
(whose
| identity is confirmed with other means) licensing info via
the
| internet. Same with aircraft. Sometimes, this digs out
funny results,
| like a CFII with a 3rd class medical


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Old November 27th 05, 03:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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Thus, the CFI w/o a medical cannot be a safety pilot under
simulated instrument conditions.


Uhhh... I'm not so sure about that. If a private pilot with a class III
medical can be a safety pilot, the addition of the CFI endorsement
should not remove that privilage. Could it be that it is merely that a
pilot could not log such flight as =dual=?

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Old November 27th 05, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:22:52 GMT, Jose
wrote:

Thus, the CFI w/o a medical cannot be a safety pilot under
simulated instrument conditions.


Uhhh... I'm not so sure about that. If a private pilot with a class III
medical can be a safety pilot, the addition of the CFI endorsement
should not remove that privilage. Could it be that it is merely that a
pilot could not log such flight as =dual=?


Your private pilot has a medical. The CFI in the quoted section above
doesn't.
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Old November 27th 05, 01:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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Your private pilot has a medical. The CFI in the quoted section above
doesn't.


Yep.. you're right. I was thinking more along the OP (CFI with third
class medical) and didn't read fully. Required crewmembers must have a
current medical, but class III should be ok.

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Old November 27th 05, 05:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:06:30 GMT, Jose
wrote:

Your private pilot has a medical. The CFI in the quoted section above
doesn't.


Yep.. you're right. I was thinking more along the OP (CFI with third
class medical) and didn't read fully. Required crewmembers must have a
current medical, but class III should be ok.


I figured something like that had happened. Been there, done that,
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Old November 27th 05, 05:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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Default The need for original documents, N-reg aircraft?

The safety pilot is a required crewmember (observer),
required to be qualified to act as PIC since the pilot can't
see and avoid. The CFI must have the medical if the
"student" is under the hood. On the other hand, a CFI can
instruct in IFR procedures as long as the student is fully
qualified to be PIC (flight review, certificate and required
endorsements) if the student is not under the hood.

If the "student" is a qualified and current Instrument rated
pilot and the flight is conducted in IMC, the CFI would not
be a required crewmember.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Jose" wrote in message
...
| Thus, the CFI w/o a medical cannot be a safety pilot
under
| simulated instrument conditions.
|
| Uhhh... I'm not so sure about that. If a private pilot
with a class III
| medical can be a safety pilot, the addition of the CFI
endorsement
| should not remove that privilage. Could it be that it is
merely that a
| pilot could not log such flight as =dual=?
|
| Jose
| --
| He who laughs, lasts.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.


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Old December 4th 05, 02:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.misc
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:xUlif.28166$4l5.18021@dukeread05...

If the "student" is a qualified and current Instrument rated
pilot and the flight is conducted in IMC, the CFI would not
be a required crewmember.


I seem to remember an FAA ruling that the safety pilot must possess all the
qualifications required to be PIC of the flight if needed. The particular
question was whether a safety pilot had to be current with respect to
takeoffs and landings. Althought the FAR said only "appropriately rated
safety pilot," the FAA ruled that that phrase meant "a safety pilot with all
the attributes needed to be PIC of that flight."


 




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