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Old December 1st 05, 07:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Morgans wrote:
Tell us about your relationship with the Rotax company, and how they felt
about the use of their engine, at the power levels it was expected to run in
the 500. What was that percentage of maximum power, anyway?



Sure, be glad to answer. My relationship with Rotax, at the close of
Revolution Helicopter, went back over 18 years.

In fact, I was the one that opened Rotax to the gyroplane engine sales
market, being the first to accomplish flying a gyroplane with a Rotax
engine. I sold over 1,200 engines for them just in gyros alone.

They sent me the first 532 liquid cooled Rotax to see if I could make it
fly. I did, and opened their market for the larger engines.

Rotax and their customers were having over heating problems with the
532. They told everyone it was ok to run the engine at 210 F. I showed
them how to run the engine at 160 F, and how it would last longer and be
more reliable. They changed to that, and had their airplane builders
call me for advice on how to change to running cooler.

They sent me the first 582 ever built, to see how it would fly. I did,
told them what to change and they did, opening their market for that
engine as well.

I was the first to use mass amounts 582 engines in helicopters, buying
over 500 engines from them.

I had, and have a very good working relationship with Rotax. Rotax is
the best, and only engine as far as I'm concerned, in the world for lite
aviation use.

As for the power levels used on the Mini-500 and how much the Rotax 582
could handle, I already wrote and posted all that here on the newsgroups
many times. You may want to do some research.

Once such post is copied below:

"Jul 25, 4:47 pm
The 582 Rotax is a good choice for the Mini-500. It has the power
necessary to do the job, at the price people will pay. The engine was
only ran at 6600 RPM's, which is still a 100% duty cycle for the engine
at 70% power reduction. Remember, the same engine in the snowmobile
industry will produce 110 hp at 8500 rpm's. Rotax simply derated the
engine for aircraft by lowering the RPM's. If you look at the power
charts of the snowmobile, the output HP at 6500 rpm is 64HP. No Rotax in
a Mini-500 has ever failed due to overexertion, if operated properly.
Only to improper installation or improper (or lack of) maintenance. It
is the finest light-aircraft engine ever made."


The short answer to your question is; the Mini-500 cruses at 70% power
available at it's operational RPM, which is at 90% of it's total duty
cycle. That is normal for most helicopters.


Dennis Fetters

Designer of;
Air Command 1/plcs Gyroplanes
Air Command 2/plcs Gyroplanes
Mini-500 1/Plcs Helicopter
Voyager-500 2/Plcs Helicopter
Excalibur 5/Plcs Turbine Helicopter
Star-Lite-A VTUAV Helicopter
Star-Lite-B VTUAV Helicopter
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Old December 1st 05, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Dennis Fetters" wrote

The short answer to your question is; the Mini-500 cruses at 70% power
available at it's operational RPM, which is at 90% of it's total duty
cycle.


Hummm, you or someone else is not being truthful, about the percent power
and RPM's the engine had to run at.

Also, the factory being eager to sell engines for the 500 is not quite what
I heard.

I know who I will believe.
--
Jim in NC

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Old December 1st 05, 11:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Morgans wrote:
"Dennis Fetters" wrote

The short answer to your question is; the Mini-500 cruses at 70% power
available at it's operational RPM, which is at 90% of it's total duty
cycle.



Hummm, you or someone else is not being truthful, about the percent power
and RPM's the engine had to run at.


He's truthful about the duty cycle! The engine ran for 90% of the flight.
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Old December 1st 05, 11:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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VaVoom wrote:

Morgans wrote:

"Dennis Fetters" wrote

The short answer to your question is; the Mini-500 cruses at 70% power
available at it's operational RPM, which is at 90% of it's total duty
cycle.




Hummm, you or someone else is not being truthful, about the percent power
and RPM's the engine had to run at.



He's truthful about the duty cycle! The engine ran for 90% of the flight.



I hope you are trying to be funny, or you need to learn what a duty
cycle consists of. Don't be ashamed, I find that many people do not know.

Also, you cut the important part off...."That is normal for most
helicopters".


Dennis Fetters

Designer of;
Air Command 1/plcs Gyroplanes
Air Command 2/plcs Gyroplanes
Mini-500 1/Plcs Helicopter
Voyager-500 2/Plcs Helicopter
Excalibur 5/Plcs Turbine Helicopter
Star-Lite-A VTUAV Helicopter
Star-Lite-B VTUAV Helicopter
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Old December 1st 05, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Hey, dumbass.

Your record of lies and deceit is a matter of public record.

Do you remember the chronology of your little helicopter project I put
together a while back? I'm sure that you would like to forget about it,
wouldn't you?

Also, how much mileage do you think you can get out of the FAA's finding of
pilot error?


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Old December 2nd 05, 01:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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C.D.Damron wrote:

Hey, dumbass.



Nice. I can see already what we're dealing with....


Your record of lies and deceit is a matter of public record.



You are welcome to prove this statement by posting a little thing called
facts. If you don't have facts, and I know you don't, then you are just
another faceless big mouth coward using the newsgroups to spew unfounded
statements. I have always backed up anything I said with facts and
figures. Please, post what ya got.


Do you remember the chronology of your little helicopter project I put
together a while back? I'm sure that you would like to forget about it,
wouldn't you?



You give yourself to much credit. I don't even remember you. But, why
don't you look it up and re-post it here again, but please also post my
responses I made, and save me the trouble of proving you wrong again. I
am quite busy these days.


Also, how much mileage do you think you can get out of the FAA's finding of
pilot error?



Well, sticking to the FACTS is always been best, and I have always done
that. So, I guess to answer your question, forever. Try it some time for
yourself.


Dennis Fetters

Designer of;
Air Command 1/plcs Gyroplanes
Air Command 2/plcs Gyroplanes
Mini-500 1/Plcs Helicopter
Voyager-500 2/Plcs Helicopter
Excalibur 5/Plcs Turbine Helicopter
Star-Lite-A VTUAV Helicopter
Star-Lite-B VTUAV Helicopter
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Old December 2nd 05, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Dennis Fetters" wrote in message
et...
You are welcome to prove this statement by posting a little thing called
facts.


FACT: In your literature, you claimed 2000 hour TBO for non-engine parts
while you had never tested any parts for anything approaching 2000 hours.






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Old December 2nd 05, 05:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Planeman" Fetters wrote:

VaVoom wrote:
Morgans wrote:
"Dennis Fetters" wrote

The short answer to your question is; the Mini-500 cruses at 70% power
available at it's operational RPM, which is at 90% of it's total duty
cycle.
Hummm, you or someone else is not being truthful, about the percent
power and RPM's the engine had to run at.

He's truthful about the duty cycle! The engine ran for 90% of the flight.

I hope you are trying to be funny, or you need to learn what a duty
cycle consists of. Don't be ashamed, I find that many people do not know.

Also, you cut the important part off...."That is normal for most
helicopters".


I didn't cut anything off, planeman.
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Old December 1st 05, 11:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Morgans wrote:
"Dennis Fetters" wrote

The short answer to your question is; the Mini-500 cruses at 70% power
available at it's operational RPM, which is at 90% of it's total duty
cycle.



Hummm, you or someone else is not being truthful, about the percent power
and RPM's the engine had to run at.



I can't speak for what others have told you, nor their honesty about the
topic or how gullible you are to believe them.

However, me as the designer and manufacturer of the aircraft is stating
to you the numbers I given here are correct. I don't care if you believe
me, no skin off my teeth.


Also, the factory being eager to sell engines for the 500 is not quite what
I heard.



I can't answer to what you heard, nor can I help what other people tell
you, and I can't help what you choose to believe, nor do I care.

I can only warrant that I said the above, and I stand behind what I said.


Dennis Fetters

Designer of;
Air Command 1/plcs Gyroplanes
Air Command 2/plcs Gyroplanes
Mini-500 1/Plcs Helicopter
Voyager-500 2/Plcs Helicopter
Excalibur 5/Plcs Turbine Helicopter
Star-Lite-A VTUAV Helicopter
Star-Lite-B VTUAV Helicopter
 




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