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  #21  
Old December 2nd 05, 12:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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George Patterson wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:

So why is the success rate of second and subsequent marriages even
lower than first marriages?



The pool of people that can enter into second marraiges have a track
record of failure. They blew it once, it's not surprising that most of
them can blow it again.


True, I was just responding to the comment about divorced folks doing so
much better on a test in a course about marriage. You'd think if they
learned that much, the success rate would be higher the second time
around. I'm guessing the test was flawed.


Matt
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Old December 2nd 05, 12:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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That's good. Just don't take it for granted. I expected mine to the my
one and only for the first 29 years.
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Gene Seibel
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Because we fly, we envy no one.

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Old December 2nd 05, 12:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Whiting wrote:
True, I was just responding to the comment about divorced folks doing so
much better on a test in a course about marriage. You'd think if they
learned that much, the success rate would be higher the second time
around. I'm guessing the test was flawed.



It wasn't a test; it was the course itself. Only the divorced folks made an A
in the course. Of course, that would suggest we made As on all the tests as
well. And the paper.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE


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Old December 2nd 05, 12:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Montblack wrote:

There are times when I want my gal to be a buddy, and treat her as such
- with poor results, while she's waiting for me to act like her
girlfriend - and is "hurt" when I don't do or say the right thing. This
is when things usually go south.


As in migration?
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Old December 2nd 05, 12:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Well, mine is 23 years strong and I expect it to be my only one. My
family has a long history of 50+ year marriages, mostly terminated by
death. You have made the right choice for you, because, as you
indicate, selfishness and marriage don't mix. If only everyone would
understand that and make the choice before they get married the first
time. :-)



Good for you. Once upon a time there was shame attached to divorce and so
people did whatever it took to stick things out when all wasn't golden. Now
divorce is so easy and there is so little stigma attached to it, the first thing
that goes through people's minds when things get tough is "divorce".

I wasn't always a selfish *******. My wife and I didn't fight. I didn't cheat,
beat, or maltreat. I handed over my paycheck in its entirety (she was an
accountant and it made sense at the time that she handle the money). My sin? I
didn't make enough money. She left me; not the other way around.

So now everything is the way *I* want it and I'm no longer willing to
compromise. I'm quite content with my life as it is now. And my dog loves me
unconditionally.




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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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Old December 2nd 05, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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My relationship, exclusive dating and marriage, was 26 years. I was the
first in my family to get divorced. My parents, grandparents, aunts, and
uncles, cousins and brother married for life.

Four fraudulent domestic violence petitions, three manufactured felony sex
charges, two feigned misdemeanor sex charges (yeah, I know it sounds like I
should add "and a partridge in a pear tree...") and one hundred thousand
dollars later -- and counting -- I have the house, my two sons, the
airplane, and I get a token child support payment once per month.

I found out about a relationship my then-wife was having by checking email.
I am convinced that if I had not discovered it when I did, I would be dead
or in prison this very moment.

There were lots of times when I went to our pastor and asked him whether
Mrs. Job was a borderline, because if she wasn't, I'm not *that*
impressed.... If you have never heard of borderline personality disorder,
count yourself blessed. To quote Toby, "I wish somehow I didn't know now,
what I didn't know then."

You cannot believe the agony I went through. My ex tried to destroy me, my
professional life, my reputation, literally everything in my life. I didn't
see my children. The police were constant visitors. I lost my retirement
savings and my practice.

The point is you can never tell with women. Earlier in my life, I gave
women credit for being fundamentally stable. They have a lot going against
them, like the hormone thing, menopause and the *incredible* ease with which
they can game the legal system. Unless you have experienced first hand how
women are treated in domestic cases, you will never know how breathtaking it
is. Even though I am a white, middle-aged, middle-class professional, the
minute she walked into the court building, I instantly knew what it was like
to be a slave in the antebellum South.

I had the great good fortune to have a female judge in my trial. A lot of
the unfairness in the legal system stems from male judges and domestic
equity masters who fall for the sniffles and batting eyes. Women know that
men will do anything, absolutely anything, if there is the remotest possible
chance they will get laid.

Now my attitude with women and insanity is like pilots and
gear-ups --there's them that has, and them that will.



Well, mine is 23 years strong and I expect it to be my only one. My
family has a long history of 50+ year marriages, mostly terminated by
death. You have made the right choice for you, because, as you indicate,
selfishness and marriage don't mix. If only everyone would understand
that and make the choice before they get married the first time. :-)

Matt



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Old December 2nd 05, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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LWG wrote:
Four fraudulent domestic violence petitions, three manufactured felony sex
charges, two feigned misdemeanor sex charges (yeah, I know it sounds like I
should add "and a partridge in a pear tree...") and one hundred thousand
dollars later -- and counting -- I have the house, my two sons, the
airplane, and I get a token child support payment once per month.




Reading your story made me damned glad I married the woman I did. True, our
marriage fell apart... but nobody tried to destroy the other. Since there were
no kids involved, we basically took out what we'd brought in and split the stuff
acquired during the marriage between us. No lawyers were involved up until the
time I actually filed for divorce and at that point it was just for the purpose
of filing papers.

My parents "gave" me the divorce for Christmas. I guess there's a message there
but I was grateful that they paid for the lawyer.

I haven't seen nor heard from my ex-wife since 1991. Life goes on.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE


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Old December 3rd 05, 06:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thanks Guys,
Well it only took my mind off it for alittle while but my buddy down
here
let me fly his 1942 Aeronca L3 in all it's WWII colors and glory last
Sunday. Said he thought I may need a flying fix! ; )
Thanks for the thoughts. Things do look pretty bad. Things will be
bad
fund wise as well, but I do hope to keep on trying to fly. Just may
take
even longer now!
Not sure as of now if I am staying in TN or going home to GA. I love it

here, but sometimes things can't be as we hoped. Heck I sure wish I had
a
travel trailer! I'd be set then wouldn't I! ; )

Patrick
student SP
aircraft structural mech

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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- Show quoted text -


Quoted from a Thai/Farang Forum:
Not only Americans seem to die in inordinately large numbers.
IIRC Germans have the worst mortality rate there, but Pattaya City can
hardly be blamed for the self destructive actions of many Farangs who
go there.


Exactly. It's not surprising that so many die. Take a 50 year old man
who decides his 48 year old wife just isn't cutting it any more so he
goes to Pattaya and gets a case of whiskey and a bottle of Viagra and a

19 year old bar girl and a week later his heart gives out. Damn that
Thailand!!

Reply

Above is just an example of having too much fun in Thailand. Hehehe...
Chin Up Mate!

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Old December 3rd 05, 06:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Sorry about the above messy post guys and gals... I'm not very good at
trimming yet, but working on it.

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Old December 4th 05, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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You're lucky. I've come across some couples who were actually better
friends after they were divorced than while they were married. I am
thinking of a gorgeous woman I went out with after my divorce. She scared me
a little when she kept talking about what a great guy her ex was. My
thought was, if he's such a nice guy, why the hell did you divorce him? The
best answer I got was that he was too nice, not romantic enough. She was
interested in flying, so we had some fun times together...

My current girlfriend grew up half a world away, in a different culture, and
lived for years in a real, shooting war zone. So, I figure we have a lot in
common....

I trust that when my airplane does me in, she'll be kind enough to be quick
about it.

The really amazing thing is that my ex is not the most troubled woman I have
been in a relationship with. My high school/college girlfriend went on to
marry her next door neighbor, raise three children, and slaughter them all
before committing suicide.


Four fraudulent domestic violence petitions, three manufactured felony
sex
charges, two feigned misdemeanor sex charges (yeah, I know it sounds like
I
should add "and a partridge in a pear tree...") and one hundred thousand
dollars later -- and counting -- I have the house, my two sons, the
airplane, and I get a token child support payment once per month.


Reading your story made me damned glad I married the woman I did. True,
our marriage fell apart... but nobody tried to destroy the other. Since
there were no kids involved, we basically took out what we'd brought in
and split the stuff acquired during the marriage between us. No lawyers
were involved up until the time I actually filed for divorce and at that
point it was just for the purpose of filing papers.



 




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