Someone left a mess at CGX !

Meigs Field is a man made island created in the 1930s. Who knows where
all the fill came from so it isn't surprising that contamination can be
found deep in the soil.

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

"kontiki" wrote in message
...
wrote:
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were
found
up to 9 feet below ground.

If you dug down into any number of 50 year-old (or greater) backyards
you's probably be shocked at the concotion of contaminats to be found.
I would bet any money that the amounts of contaminats from various
airports are but a blip in the noise level compared to all the
contaminats
from homes and businesses across the country.

But why inject logic in to the maelstrom.

"sfb" wrote

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

Shoot, I've seen grading equipment leaking hydraulic fluid by the gallons,
and still keep on working. It could be some of that, too.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
"sfb" wrote

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

Shoot, I've seen grading equipment leaking hydraulic fluid by the gallons,
and still keep on working. It could be some of that, too.

Thats the ticket, it was hydralic fluid from the dozers craving all the
XXX's.

--
Jim in NC

On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 01:36:59 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"sfb" wrote

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

Shoot, I've seen grading equipment leaking hydraulic fluid by the gallons,
and still keep on working. It could be some of that, too.

Leak?

I was raided in rural Michigan. In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil. In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-)) When changing the oil in cars and tractors
people were encouraged to spread it on the gravel roads to keep the
dust down. The brine truck used to make at least two trips a summer
down our road.

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 01:36:59 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"sfb" wrote

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

Shoot, I've seen grading equipment leaking hydraulic fluid by the
gallons,
and still keep on working. It could be some of that, too.

Leak?

I was raided in rural Michigan. In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil. In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-)) When changing the oil in cars and tractors
people were encouraged to spread it on the gravel roads to keep the
dust down. The brine truck used to make at least two trips a summer
down our road.

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I remember that being done in the '60s and maybe even into the early 70's.
They would lay down coat of heavy oil then top it with fine gravel. A poor
mans asphalt.

"Roger" wrote

I was raided in rural Michigan.

I hope that being "raided" didn't set your development back too far! BFG

In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil.

I too remember the oil spraying.

In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-))

Now, I'm clueless when you speak of "drip." What is it?

When changing the oil in cars and tractors people were encouraged to
spread it on
the gravel roads to keep the dust down. The brine truck used to make at
least two
trips a summer down our road.

Brine? As in sal****er, or something else?

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

That sounds like the tar oil type of stuff, like they still use between
coats of bitumenous (sp?) concrete. (asphalt)

I'm surprised you know about all of this road stuff. Did they really have
cars, back when you grew up? g,dr
--
Jim in NC
--
Jim in NC

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:07:38 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Roger" wrote

I was raided in rural Michigan.

I hope that being "raided" didn't set your development back too far! BFG

That happens at 4:00 AM.


In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil.

I too remember the oil spraying.

In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-))

Now, I'm clueless when you speak of "drip." What is it?

The "low boilers" driectly off the oil wells. Lots of Naptha and
other good *stuff*. Spark knock like crazy, foul the plugs, backfie
through the carb and bark out the exhaust. When times were tough
people used to slip up to the tanks and drain off a bit. You could
tell by the noise (and smell) who was burning the stuff.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


When changing the oil in cars and tractors people were encouraged to
spread it on
the gravel roads to keep the dust down. The brine truck used to make at
least two
trips a summer down our road.

Brine? As in sal****er, or something else?

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

That sounds like the tar oil type of stuff, like they still use between
coats of bitumenous (sp?) concrete. (asphalt)

I'm surprised you know about all of this road stuff. Did they really have
cars, back when you grew up? g,dr
--
Jim in NC

"Roger" wrote in message
...
Leak?

I was raised in rural Michigan. In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil. In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-)) When changing the oil in cars and tractors
people were encouraged to spread it on the gravel roads to keep the
dust down. The brine truck used to make at least two trips a summer
down our road.

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger

If it weren't for brine, there'd be no Dow and if there were no Dow there'd
probably be no Midland.

http://www.geo.msu.edu/geo333/dow.html

I can still hear my boss's voice on the Corporate History piece we did:

"It was in 1897 that Herbert Dow discovered Brine buried in pockets deep
beneath the Earth..."

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
(Production Intern - Dow Chemical Co. PR Dept. Midland, MI - '84/'85)

"Jay Beckman" wrote

If it weren't for brine, there'd be no Dow and if there were no Dow
there'd
probably be no Midland.

Harumph. I had no idea that there was brine in Michigan, and that started
Dow. Learn something new every day. Some days. I wouldn't want to be
"too" smart. g
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Jay Beckman" wrote

If it weren't for brine, there'd be no Dow and if there were no Dow
there'd
probably be no Midland.

Harumph. I had no idea that there was brine in Michigan, and that started
Dow. Learn something new every day. Some days. I wouldn't want to be
"too" smart. g
--
Jim in NC

Little known and lesser cared about trivia ...

Probably the only thing I took with me from my short stint in Midland. My
internship supervisor was "old school" having worked his way up through the
ranks as a "one man band" street reporter shooting stories on 16mm film and
was sure I'd never amount to much.

20 years (11 at the network level), 7 Emmy Awards (self
agrandizement...sorry), and my PP-ASEL later ... well it just goes to show
you never know... LOL!

;O)

Jay B