Basic Training Gliders

Derek Copeland wrote in
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At 01:18 05 December 2005, Bob Korves wrote:

Yes, the DG trimmer control is cr@p, in all the DG's
I have flown. Also
the very stiff aileron control in the 1000 -- takes
both hands on the stick
to enter a thermal.
(snip)
-Bob Korves

Bob,

The ailerons on our DG1000 are not at all heavy, and
it has the most nicely co-ordinated controls of any
two seater glider I have ever flown (Duo is also nice).
Have you tried oiling the hinges?

Derek Copeland

The one I flew was very stiff. It was just OK in straight flight and when
established in a thermal. To achieve a brisk roll with full stick
deflection during thermal entry required both hands on the stick. Pitch
forces were much lighter. The glider I flew had several hundred hours over
several years. It may indeed need the controls lubed or some other
maintenance performed.

BTW, the one I flew had the retractable three wheel set-up, and the ground
handling was very good, better than a Grob 103 Twin II (or a Duo).

The 1000 also does very nice loops and wingovers (20m). I have it on very
good authority that the Duo does very nice loops and wingovers, too,
despite the prohibition on the placard...
-Bob Korves

Bob Korves bkorves@winfirstDECIMALcom wrote in
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Derek Copeland wrote in
:



At 01:18 05 December 2005, Bob Korves wrote:

Yes, the DG trimmer control is cr@p, in all the DG's
I have flown. Also
the very stiff aileron control in the 1000 -- takes
both hands on the stick
to enter a thermal.
(snip)
-Bob Korves

Bob,

The ailerons on our DG1000 are not at all heavy, and
it has the most nicely co-ordinated controls of any
two seater glider I have ever flown (Duo is also nice).
Have you tried oiling the hinges?

Derek Copeland

The one I flew was very stiff. It was just OK in straight flight and
when established in a thermal. To achieve a brisk roll with full
stick deflection during thermal entry required both hands on the
stick. Pitch forces were much lighter. The glider I flew had several
hundred hours over several years. It may indeed need the controls
lubed or some other maintenance performed.

BTW, the one I flew had the retractable three wheel set-up, and the
ground handling was very good, better than a Grob 103 Twin II (or a
Duo).

The 1000 also does very nice loops and wingovers (20m). I have it on
very good authority that the Duo does very nice loops and wingovers,
too, despite the prohibition on the placard...
-Bob Korves


I should also mention that we were flying in the Sierra Nevada mountains of
California/Nevada on a day with 10+ knot thermals. Pullups into thermals
were at 80-100+ knots.
-Bob

The end of the ailerons slotting into the socket in the end of the little
ailerons on the 20 mtr tips tend to attract dirt. ( as they usually have
grease or vaseline on them )They need to be cleaned and lubricated quite
regularly.
This helps.
Paul
"Bob Korves" bkorves@winfirstDECIMALcom wrote in message
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Derek Copeland wrote in
:



At 01:18 05 December 2005, Bob Korves wrote:

Yes, the DG trimmer control is cr@p, in all the DG's
I have flown. Also
the very stiff aileron control in the 1000 -- takes
both hands on the stick
to enter a thermal.
(snip)
-Bob Korves

Bob,

The ailerons on our DG1000 are not at all heavy, and
it has the most nicely co-ordinated controls of any
two seater glider I have ever flown (Duo is also nice).
Have you tried oiling the hinges?

Derek Copeland

The one I flew was very stiff. It was just OK in straight flight and when
established in a thermal. To achieve a brisk roll with full stick
deflection during thermal entry required both hands on the stick. Pitch
forces were much lighter. The glider I flew had several hundred hours
over
several years. It may indeed need the controls lubed or some other
maintenance performed.

BTW, the one I flew had the retractable three wheel set-up, and the ground
handling was very good, better than a Grob 103 Twin II (or a Duo).

The 1000 also does very nice loops and wingovers (20m). I have it on very
good authority that the Duo does very nice loops and wingovers, too,
despite the prohibition on the placard...
-Bob Korves